Posts by Sargon

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Lurkers! Is the WTS a Tax Cheat and Deadbeat?

by metatron in

i have not seen any announcement from the watchtower stating that they have settled their tax liability with.

the nation of france.

they went thru the courts there - and lost.

Sargon

Thanks for posting this Lady Lee. I wasn't aware that the witnesses were the third largest Christian religion in France.

Looking at the figures for the assessment, they don't quite add up to me though. A 4 year assesment of $50,000,000 at 60% means the gross donations were $83,333,333. With a donating base of 200,000 parishioners this works out to $415 per witness over 4 years, or a little over $100 per witness per year. This incredibly low figure either means French witnesses are real tightwads, or the french head office is not claiming all the donations received.

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Lurkers! Is the WTS a Tax Cheat and Deadbeat?

by metatron in

i have not seen any announcement from the watchtower stating that they have settled their tax liability with.

the nation of france.

they went thru the courts there - and lost.

Sargon

Met,

This is the first I've heard of this, do you know a news source where i can find out more?

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JESUS GOT OFF LIGHT!!!!!!

by avishai in

lately, with all the talk about mel gibsons new movie, etc., it got me to thinking.

here you have people that suffer for their whole lives.

with cerebral palsy, constant pain, watching their entire families get gunned down.. here is the deal.

Sargon

And to top that all off he had knowlage of what lay ahead of him after death with certainty.

This is the part of Jesus 'sacrifice' that always bothered me. For someone with a lifespan as long as his, his suffering was very shortterm. It was also unneccessary, something imposed by a sadistic father following some system of rules only he can understand.

Frankly I see more sacrifice in the fireman entering the burning building, the person pushing the child out of the way of the oncoming truck... these people don't know what tommorrow holds for them.

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Are you a healthier person since you left?

by Lady Lee in

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i am healthier mentally - no more depression and i have the freedom to think and believe what is right for me and not dictated for me

i am healthier emotionally - i have the freedom to be happy or sad or angry or whatever it is i feel in the moment.

i no longer have to pretend to be happy to keep the congregation looking good.

Sargon

Mentally, physically, emotionally and socially healthier; but as they predicted morally depraved.

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Newsweek Cover: Who Killed Jesus?

by willyloman in

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msn has posted the cover of the latest issue of newsweek, with a cover story on mel gibson's new movie based on jesus' crucifixion.

the provocative headline: who really killed jesus.. without getting into that debate, i'm going to go out on a limb and make a prediction:.

i have not read the article, but think it is a pretty safe bet that with all the religious experts they will quote in this article, there will not be one single reference to the wts or jw's.. just a couple of years ago, the same magazine (or was it time?

Sargon

After all that effort, they don't even register as a blip on the screen when reporters set out to investigate stories based on the bible

Excellant thread Willy, the only positive press the WTS gets is it's own. I'm just wondering why, after so many years of such intense study by the WTS; nobody outside the org looks upon them as experts.

Runningman... love that term apocalytic crapola; you should copyrite it.

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Did Jesus or other bibical figures use marijuana?

by Leander in

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i've heard on a couple of occasions that it was a frequent practice in bible times for people to use hemp oil.

has anyone else heard this take on the bible before?

is there a way to prove whether its true or not?

Sargon

Peyote was/is a popular hallucinagenic in many native american rituals. I've never known anyone actually hallucinate on cannabis either.

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Does the Watchtower Doctrine exist?

by family_man in

i am trying to learn as much as i can for my wife's sake.

she has started to attend a kingdom hall.

it's a spanish one.

Sargon

I forgot to mention... after armageddon, jesus comes back in 1000 years and again destroys those deemed unworthy. Nice loving religion...Huh??

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Does the Watchtower Doctrine exist?

by family_man in

i am trying to learn as much as i can for my wife's sake.

she has started to attend a kingdom hall.

it's a spanish one.

Sargon

Lets see if I can answer your questions:

What is the WT doctrine

To make a long answer short... Armageddons coming. This is the battle where jesus destroys alll of mankind except the 144,ooo lucky ones who go to heaven and form a government with Jesus to rule over those of mankind deemed worthy to survive Armageddon. how do we survive Armageddon... according to WTS theology faith and works. Faith in the Governing Body (board of Directors) of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. And works, getting as many hours in the field as possible hawking the corporations literature.

Your wife hasn't mentioned the door to door yet because she's a newbie, as such she is being eased into the religion. At present other people are racking up service hours teaching her what the religions all about. The ultimate goal is baptism. After getting dunked in the fish tank your wife will try to rack up her hour total as well.

Eventually your wife will be so programmed that her salvation is more important than anything else in her life including your family unit.

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