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  Lurkers - PLEASE watch this excellent video on 1914 that uses only Watchtower quotes!

  by cedars in

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  this is a truly awesome video, with a lovely overall presentation, that uses watchtower literature to explain how the expectations of russell and his followers regarding 1914 differ significantly from what is portrayed in modern publications.. if you're visiting this forum for the first time, please watch it!.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zap6keflhpe.

  cedars.

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  Well done!
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  Tall Penguin update. Ch1: Heartbreaking Ch2: Ray of Hope Ch3: Heartwarming!!

  by Open mind in

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  i was perusing some older threads today and stumbled across a post by a former regular poster here: tall penguin.. .

  she's from canada and da'd in 2005. posted here for a couple years and then stopped, but started up a blog of her own.

  i remember reading a couple years ago her heartbreaking story of how close she had gotten to a young girl in her congregation and how she would likely never again have her in her life.. .

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  I tried to read the most recent entry, but the link didn't go to it directly....

  I loved the reply from Miss S on the second entry. That made my day!
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  Be thankful if you are shunned. . .. .

  by skeeter1 in

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  i have a jw family member who very rarely comes to see me.

  rarely calls me.

  but, now, for whatever reason is the time to see me.. first two minutes - i was deluged with him showing me the bible on a phone.

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  So, he goes onto how loving 'Jehovah' is. I said, "I think Jehovah's nuts. He commanded a father kill his first-born son." He said, "Well, the angel stopped it."

  I'd ask him where in the hell that "angel" is whenever a child dies from their parents refusing a blood transfusion.
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  Proof of adultery no longer needed to be spiritually free to remarry

  by WuzLovesDubs in

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  2. friends

  so this is what my soon to be ex says to me today...the same person who is courting wooing and flirting with a sister and has been for a very long time even way before i told him i wanted a divorce.

  he tells me that they "dont spy on people any more to get proof" that my just telling him i did or him telling the elders that i did is "sufficient" for him to be free.

  he also said hes not allowed to talk to said sister any more because she is "spiritually free" but not divorced yet!

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  wuzLovesDubs, my dear friend,

  If it were me, and my soon-to-be ex-hubby wanted me to admit that *I* committed adultery while he'd been out tomcatting around and lining up Mrs. #2, my answer to him would be "no, NO, and HELL-NO!".

  I would *never* give him that satisfaction. Let him do the deed and take the consequences. He wants to have his cake and eat it too. That's not how things work in JW-land.

  I'm laughing my butt off that it took a talking-to by the Elders™ to get it through his thick skull that his behaviour is totally inappropriate. Well, duh! Just shows how seriously he takes his belief system, because if he took it seriously he would have known that before he started scoping for a new lady friend.

  I'm sorry that you have been married to a d!¢khead. We still love you though.
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  My new worries about my mom-Suicide?

  by JWdaughter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i love my jw mom.

  we have had issues and struggles, but she loves me, i love her and we tolerate a lot of things we differ about because of that love.. you may remember my dad died a little over 11 years ago, and my mom took to a lot of drinking and she was very depressed.

  i thought she would just die of despair or drink herself dead or drive drunk.. she has calmed down on the depression and i i know she still drinks too much, but i think it is a little more ocntained.

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  She may have already come to that decision and has made peace with it.

  Sometimes people who have struggled with depression, once they have made the decision to suicide, have a kind of transformation where they seem to be much happier, peaceful people - it's because they finally see an end to their pain and suffering.

  The fact that she's sold her home and is looking for ways to spend the money that will benefit family members is a big red flag, imo.

  The other thing would be to find out whether your mother has a plan for suicide and the means to carry out the plan. Does she have access to medication that, in combination with alcohol, would cause an OD or respiratory failure - something like sedatives, narcotics or antidepressants? Does she own a gun? Does she live in a highrise apartment with a balcony, or near a bridge, or near train or subway tracks? The major concern for me would be alcohol and pills - that is typically the method of choice of women - they don't want to leave a mess for others to have to clean up.

  While JWs used to consider suicide as an unforgivable sin - unworthy of Resurrection™ - the current belief is that it is not possible to know the mental state of a person who is suicidal, and that their eligibility for Resurrection™ is in Jehovah's hands.

  My suggestion to you would be to get in touch with her doctor, ASAP, and while the doctor may not be able to discuss your mother's medical information with you, you can inform her of your concerns and the doctor can assess your mother's status and refer her to a mental health professional if she feels that there is significant risk. That is, assuming that your mother will be seeing her doctor prior to your visit, to intervene sooner rather than later.
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  How to talk to an Elder (Need help ASAP)

  by okage in

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  i never was a jehovahs witness.

  its been stated.

  so if i went up to a local congregation and knocked on the door how would i get to talk to an elder about my mother in law.... i have no interest in being a witness.

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  You did a good thing in helping this lady get caught up on her mortgage. She, in turn, showed you how much she valued your assistance. She is a user and manipulator. Her daughter is likely so brainwashed by her mother's guilt-trips all her life that she feels she can't escape the emotional abuse and blackmail.

  Take the high road. Revenge only puts you on the same level as the person you want to get even with. Tell your MIL that you and your wife are moving into your own place ASAP, and that you cannot help her financially any longer. She will have to deal with the consequences of her choices from now on, even if that means losing her house and ending up in a shelter. Do NOT, under any circumstances, allow her to move in with you and your wife if she loses her house.

  In the long run, taking the high road will keep your wife's respect, and will allow you to live your life without regrets. If you have children together someday, do you want their grandmother telling them stories about how you got revenge on her? Do you want your wife to be afraid to upset you, thinking that the payback will be hell? It's not worth it. Really.
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  Rumor Elders Will Receive Name Badges For Every Meeting.

  by HelpMeBelieve in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i keep hearing rumors elders are going to be getting permanent badge cards to wear to every meeting.

  one excited brother told me, "it would be nice if new ones to the kingdom hall could see who their shepherds are.

  there is a great surge in activity, new bible students will be able to locate the proper elder in charge of bible studies!

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  I wouldn't be surprised in the least. The WTS is always trying to give the appearance of being proactive / forward-thinking / progressive. A name tag on an Elder™ or Ministerial Servant™ will give the impression that they have been "vetted" by the WTS or at least by the local Congregation™, and have met all legal requirements for working around children, such as a criminal background check, etc.
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  "Our Reader's Ask" November 2012 Public WT

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  2. friends

  has anyone seen this?

  it's rich.

  it's too bad that this will blow right over the heads of jehovah's witnesses.

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  It is the "for public consumption" edition.

  I'd venture to guess that they want outsiders to be reassured that they welcome questions and diligent research. Once you're in, they pull the bait and switch manoeuvre, such that "you know it's The Truth™", "trust us, we're the Faithful and Discreet Slave™", and questioning + deep research = Apostasy™.
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  Best EZ 1 Liners to Say to Witnesses?

  by LV101 in

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  any suggestions?

  attending an invite (strange we're invited but hoping to make it worth my while) but i don't want to suffer big consequences as i've already said enough wrong stuff.

  i'm stuck reading hassan's ccmc book (about half way --- just don't have time and not into it).

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  I usually wait for one of them to say something judgemental or hateful. Then I zing them with, "wow, that is loving" or "I wonder if that's how Jesus feels about that" or, my personal favorite: "everyone will know my disciples by the love they have among themselves."
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  What Do You think About Watchtower View on the Use Of Mother's Natural Milk Banks and Milk-Sharing Practices?

  by Scott77 in

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  2. current

  http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-09-02/breast-milk-bank-donors/57535706/1.

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  Considering one of the major components of early milk (colostrum) is leukocytes, I would be interested in learning their position on it, because they are so dead set against the transfusion of major components of blood, including leukocytes.

  Funny how female mammals were "created" with the ability to feed our young and provide precious immune properties via leukocytes in colostrum, but when it is derived from blood, it's forbidden by the so-called "Creator".