It's interesting that they tell JWs "not to be quickly shaken from your reason" after repeating the same interpretations for years and years, but then all of a sudden, they publish a bunch of doctrinal reversals in the July 15, 2013 Watchtower, expecting everyone to just say "Oh okay, so let's believe this now. No problem."
Posts by Scully
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22Apostate article in new December 15, 2013 Watchtower lead article major contradiction of featured scripture 2 Thess. 2:1,2
by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique inthe below is the title and theme scripture of the lead article in the latest watchtower about apostates.
notice that the watchtower is unknowingly labeling themselves as an apostate, as the man of lawlessness, as we briefly review the context of its own theme scripture.. .
avoid being quickly shaken from your reason!.
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Just when I thought it was over I get a phone call
by label licker inone of the families in the hall called me last night and let another piece of the puzzle out.
apparently there was another family that we don't even know who had gotton a phone call from these jerk off elders down here questioning them about us and what they knew.
(anything negative).
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Scully
Showing up to a JC indicates that you acknowledge their authority over you.
I suggest you tell them you have nothing to say to them and to stop harassing you, or don't bother showing up. Go out for dinner and a movie instead.
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What is new about the Candace Conti trial
by smiddy inwhats new in the latest developments.
smiddy.
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Scully
More pressure on Caleb: Giving makes you happy!!
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Richard Dawkins Fail...
by tenyearsafter inwow...hard to believe anyone would openly make this kind of comment.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/richard-dawkins-pedophilia_n_3895514.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003#slide=989667.
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Scully
If you read The Glass Castle by Jeanette Walls, there is the description of her own experience of molestation as a child by a male relative. When she told her mother, there was no alarm, no reports to the police, her mother asked her "did he hurt you?" and when Jeanette said "no", her mother told her to stay away from the relative, and then they picked up and moved away. There was no big deal made of the incident but the family knew to stay away from 'the funny uncle'. I felt sick when I read that.
It *was* a time when things were handled in a matter-of-fact way. There were no laws or legal penalties. People couldn't afford a lawyer to sue for damages and they didn't want to drag the incident through the courts, forcing children to recount what was done to them.
That's the way pedophilia was handled 40-50 years ago. That's part of the reason why molesters got away with their crimes for so long. It's why we've had to wait until the late 20th century for the breadth and depth of the ramifications of child sexual abuse to be studied and compensation to be sought in the courts.
Dawkins may have been able to minimise its effects on his own life but it was a mistake for him to minimise the effects it has on anyone else. The Zeitgeist changes, and our values and attitudes must change with it.
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Nov 2013 KM Question Box. Head coverings on Doorstep bible studies
by BroMac inshould a female publisher wear a headcovering if she is accompanied by a male publisher at a door step bible study?
when a female publisher conducts a regular ,scheduled bible study and a male kingdom publisher is present, she should wear a head covering.(1cor.
11:3-10)the july 15, 2002 issue of the watchtower, page 27, explains: this is a pre arranged session of teaching where the one conducting the study actually presides.
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Scully
I think this is as good a reason as any for all Sisters™ to boycott going Door-to-Door™.
The WTS may as well keep them barefoot and chained to the kitchen too.
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Employment issues unique to Jehovah's Witnesses
by Watchtower-Free injust found this site .
thought i would share.
http://jwemployees.bravehost.com/index.html.
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Scully
Although the Telfairs lost overall because the USDC ruled that FEDEX had offered "reasonable accomodations", this USDC did rule that the Telfairs' belief that they were required to perform field ministry and Bible study on Saturdays was a protected "bona fide" religious belief -- at least at the summary judgment stage of a court case. Jehovah's Witnesses across the United States possibly may now point to this decision as legal justification for refusing to work on Saturdays. This USDC Opinion states, in part:
In their affidavits submitted in opposition to summary judgment, both plaintiffs aver that they hold a sincere belief it is their religious obligation to conduct Bible study groups and engage in field ministry work on Saturdays as members and elders in their Jehovah's Witness congregation. In deposition testimony, both further acknowledge that while it is customary for Jehovah's Witnesses to engage in field ministry on Saturdays, Jehovah's Witnesses are encouraged and permitted to pursue field ministry on Monday through Friday as well. Similarly, they both acknowledge that Bible study and faith sharing are permitted on days other than Saturday, and that there is nothing in Jehovah's Witness doctrine, scripture or tenets prohibiting its members from working on Saturdays, nor is there any sanction (excommunication, shunning, expulsion) imposed against Jehovah's Witnesses who work on Saturdays.
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Forum updates
by Simon inthe rss feed should (may?
) be working again and hopefully performance should be a little faster now as well.. as always, please let me know if you have any issues or notice anything not working quite right..
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Scully
I haven't selected a location in my profile, but I'm noticing that mine and lots of other people are showing the flag of Zimbabwe??
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The Symptoms of Religious Addiction
by Scully inso i'm re-reading a book that i first read in 1994, when i was considering leaving the jws.
it's called when god becomes a drug - breaking the chains of religious addiction and abuse, by fr.
leo booth (tarcher putnam, 1991).. on page 59 is a checklist of "the symptoms of religious addiction", and this was a complete a-ha moment for me when i read it such a long time ago.
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Scully
So I'm re-reading a book that I first read in 1994, when I was considering leaving the JWs. It's called When God Becomes a Drug - Breaking the Chains of Religious Addiction and Abuse, by Fr. Leo Booth (Tarcher Putnam, 1991).
On page 59 is a checklist of "The Symptoms of Religious Addiction", and this was a complete a-ha moment for me when I read it such a long time ago. It just crystallized some of the behaviours of JWs (and expectations of the WTS) that were spiritually unhealthy.
The Symptoms of Religious Addiction
- Inability to think, doubt, or question information or authority
- Black-and-white, simplistic thinking
- Shame-based belief that you aren't good enough, or you aren't "doing it right"
- Magical thinking that God will fix you
- Scrupulosity: rigid, obsessive adherence to rules, codes of ethics, or guidelines
- Uncompromising, judgmental attitudes
- Compulsive praying, going to church or crusades, quoting scripture
- Unrealistic financial contributions
- Believing that sex is dirty - that our bodies and physical pleasures are evil
- Compulsive overeating or excessive fasting
- Conflict with science, medicine, and education
- Progressive detatchment from the real world, isolation, breakdown of relationships
- Psychosomatic illness: sleeplessness, back pains, headaches, hypertension
- Manipulating scripture or texts, feeling chosen, claiming to receive special messages from God
- Trancelike state or religious high, wearing a glazed happy face
- Cries for help; mental, emotional, physical breakdown; hospitalization
Not all of these apply to the JWs, but many of these criteria do. Some of the behaviours - like "shame-based belief that you aren't good enough" can haunt a person their entire lives, even after they've broken away from the abusive religious system. I struggle with it sometimes myself even though the rest of the list I've been able to reconcile over the last almost two decades.
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I had NO idea about the letter to Hitler......
by Flg8ter inthis was brand new to me........did some research, like we're not supposed to do ;) and dug up crazy stuff that i had no idea about.
my whole life we were taught have bad and evil "christendom" was for trying to pacify hiter during his rise to power, and how different we were for standing up to him!.
then i found about the letter dated june 25,1933 from rutherford and his writting team to hiter.
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Scully
Yes, nobody knew how evil Hitler was at the time, but weren't the JWs also preaching Political Neutrality™ by then? What's with the hypocritical sucking up to the Reich if you are Politically Neutral™ and "no part of the world"?
I just received "Jehovah's Witnesses and the Third Reich" by M. James Penton. I've got a lot of reading ahead of me...
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after sending him a Fb message to be a *true*brother to his brother, my BIL BLOCKED ME!
by losingit ini'm absolutely furious about it!
no message, just deletes me from his friends list-- which is fine.... but i can't even *message* him.
funny, the bum of a bil just had his district convention in his home country, which he attended with his mother and father.
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Scully
Been there. It sucks. Sorry that it's happened to you.
