Let's call it what it really is: a carrot to keep the donkeys moving in the direction the WTS wants, as it seems to work better than "the beatings will continue until morale improves".
Posts by Scully
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16Elderly sister (married) says rumor is that RC talk says resurrected will be with thier mates! Poor thing.
by Wasanelder Once in87 year old sister (who's current husband, a total nazi one foot in the grave) was excited to relate that (she heard) a talk at the regional convention said a wife would be happy to meet her ressurected husband and grab him in her arms!
she reads that as reunion of the married kind.
she is pooping skittles she's so happy.
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Archbishop Didn't Know Sex With Children Was a Crime
by Stealth inwtf .
the st. louis archbishop embroiled in a sexual abuse scandal testified last month that he didnt know in the 1980s whether it was illegal for priests to have sex with children, according to a court deposition released monday.
archbishop robert carlson, who was chancellor of the archdiocese of minneapolis and st. paul at the time, was deposed as part of a lawsuit against the twin cities archdiocese and the diocese of winona, minnesota.
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Scully
Did he, or did he not, take a vow of celibacy when he entered the priesthood? Celibate means NO SEX, EVER. Not with adults, not with children, not with pets or farm animals, and not even with your hands. NO means NO.
Dumbass.
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New Tract for August 2014 - Scan
by BluesBrother inif someone has done this before , i apologise but this was new to me.....struck me as strange that nowadays, the answers to life's problems are found on the internet .
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Scully
This belongs in the same place as the rest of the junk mail I get from carpet cleaning offers to fitness clubs to the phone company begging me to go back to being their customer.
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How I Know The Assembly Parts Are Made Up
by lovelylil inwe had a co looking for a certain experience for an assembly part coming up and the elders in my hall at the time sent him to see me, since i usually had good experiences out in field service.. anyway, after speaking with the co, i was sorry to inform him that i did not have an experience that suited the type he needed.
he told me that was o.k.
because he could use me anyway for another part.
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Scully
Well, not only are JWs expected to lie when giving parts at a Circuit Assembly™, they are also expected to lie when they testify in court on behalf of a JW who is being represented by a WTS lawyer.
When I was a child, our family was friendly with another JW family - their kids were the same ages as me and my siblings and we were in the same classes at school. Anyway fast forward several years, and their youngest child gets pregnant, DFd and then marries the guy she was with. Eventually she decides she wants to be Reinstated™ so she can have contact with her JW family members. Her mom starts sending the mags to the house, which makes the girl's husband furious - ooooh, Persecution™! - and they eventually divorce. His family is well-to-do and threatens to do whatever they can to get custody of the kids - more Persecution™!
Because this is apparently a 'landmark' case the WTS laywers get involved. The two (Publisher™) Sisters™ who have been Conducting™ a Bible Study™ with this girl are asked to testify on her behalf, along with the two Special Pioneers™ who know the family very well. The WTS lawyers spend a couple of weeks with the Congregation™, and Monday to Friday consisted of intense coaching sessions with the four Sisters™ where they were practicing different scenarios that might come up in the court room. One such scenario bothered one of the Publisher™ Sisters™ very much. The question from the bench was something along the lines of "Do Jehovah's Witnesses teach that the government and its agents are under the control of the Devil?" We ALL know that this is taught. It's documented in the literature, and it's easily proven that it's taught. The Sister™ was conflicted - she was expected to swear on the Bible to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and she was being told that in order to get the win for the WTS, it would be necessary for her to lie under oath - to commit the crime of perjury and suffer the consequences - by a legal representative of the WTS.
To add insult to injury, the two Special Pioneer™ Sisters™ were allowed to count the time spent in these coaching sessions toward their required hours for Special Pioneering™, which amounted to 150 hours per month at the time, the two Publisher™ Sisters™, putting in the same amount of time in the coaching sessions, were forbidden to add those hours to their Field Service Report™. This was the reason I even heard about the rest of the case, because my mom was so annoyed that she wasn't allowed to put those hours on her Field Service Report™, when she had given up her other activities in order to participate in these coaching sessions. She was actually less peeved about being asked to lie on the witness stand because for all the coaching time she put in, she wasn't called to testify. In a way, it was like Abraham's hand being held back from sacrificing Isaac - he was willing to commit the act in his heart, and then wasn't required to carry it through to completion.
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What are the consequences if a JW files for an unscriptural divorce?
by Daniel1555 inin january my wife separated from me, because she views me as an apostate (to make the story short).. at that time the elders explained to us, that the bible doesn't approve of such a separation.
i heard from my mother in law, that my wife finally wants to divorce.
(when i think of how my wife treated me the last year i actually want a divorce too).. now my question to you:.
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Scully
If she wants to get married again, she will be DFd for adultery, since the separation and divorce are not based in scripturally approved grounds. And any potential BF she has among the JWs will be DFd for adultery as well, on the same grounds. However if you kanoodle before she does, she will be free to remarry.
You could - if approached to confirm any kanoodling with anyone else - deny that you are involved in such a relationship - and don't give them any reason to think that you might be lying about it either.
Let her be the one to suffer the consequences of instigating the separation and divorce.
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JW refuses to provide wedding stationery to Gay couple
by KateWild ini was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.
i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.
i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.
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Scully
exwhyzee:
Dont' Neo Nazi's and Members of the KKK have rights too? It seems like when it comes to the topic of Gay rights, people aren’t allowed any options when it comes to their own sensibilities on the subject.
The thing with neo-nazis and KKK members is that they *do* discriminate and their events promote racial segregation, hate speech, etc. Refusing to serve them, when their viewpoints are in opposition to the civil liberties of the general public, would probably be legally permissible. If a group wants to promote their hatred, they can find someone who shares that viewpoint to do the stationery, catering, etc. I don't see a gay couple who want to spend the rest of their lives together in a committed relationship as a violation of anyone else's civil liberties. They aren't telling the JW stationery lady that she can't go Door-to-Door™ or attend Meetings™ at the Kingdom Hall™ or gather with other JWs at a Circuit Assembly™ or District Convention™. They just want to have a celebration of their relationship with their friends and loved ones - it is none of this JW lady's business to interfere with that.
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JW refuses to provide wedding stationery to Gay couple
by KateWild ini was outraged at this and had to post it.. http://jehovahswitnessreport.com/blog/jw-refuses-to-provide-wedding-stationery-to-gay-couple.
i think she is a hypocrite and i bet she sells her invites to fornicators, or does she ask them if they are having sex before marrige, before she takes their money?.
i was never like this when i was a jw, it's even more disturbing that she is going to ask her elders what to do.
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Scully
The gay community should make an example of her for this - it is illegal for someone to discriminate on the basis of religion, race, creed or sexual orientation. She can't single out one segment of the community whose lifestyle offends her religious sensibilities, when she has likely provided services to couples who, if she bothered to inquire, would be found out to be committing fornication or adultery, which are also against her religious principles. Just because it's two males who wish to get married, it's just as offensive to refuse their business as it would be for her to refuse the business of a black or interracial couple.
I wonder if the JW business owner could get the WT legal team to represent her?
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My Child Has Asked Me to Divorce Husband
by HeyThere ini guess i am just venting.
its a mess.
i just dont even know where to start with this crap.
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Scully
Hey There,
It's unusual for a daughter to have such disdain for her dad, even when they get involved with a cult like the JWs. Please ask her if there is something going on that she's been told by her father not to disclose to you.
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...The WBT$ Theft of Kingdom Hall Bank Accounts and JW Elders...
by OUTLAW in.. the new wbt$ donation arrangement/ jw kingdom hall bank account theft... is a very hot topic right now... the wbt$ is literally going to clean out kingdom hall bank accounts,filled with donations from jws... that theft is going to happen world wide..the wbt$ is going to steal from 7 million plus jw`s... .. we have jw elders here on jwn,that know whats going on... they "serve" in kingdom halls,they are "supposed" to be looking after the welfare of the average jw... they know there is a 4 page letter,only one page will be read to the congregation..the rest will be kept secret... they know the wbt$ is about to steal jw donations..on a world wide scale!!!...
.. i would like to know what you active jw elders are going to do about this??!!...
are you going to let "your" congregation know about the other 3 secret pages?...
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Scully
This is a perfect opportunity for anyone still actively attending Meetings™ at the Kingdom Hall™ to vote very loudly and definitively by snapping closed their wallets and checkbooks and never opening it to the JWs / WTS again.
It's exactly what Mr Scully and I did many years before we actually left - certain activities and initiatives produced a 'rotten smell in Denmark', as Shakespeare put it - and we decided that we weren't going to part with our hard earned money.
What, exactly, is the WTS going to do if individual regular JWs stop donating? What can they do? They've told JWs for years and years not to pursue wealth or higher education and now they're reaping the results of dispensing that advice.
The more they demand money, the more they are going to resemble other churches that place heavy financial demands on their followers. Just because there's no plate passed at the KH, doesn't mean they aren't pressuring members to cough up more cash. They've been at this racket for over 100 years, and they've only become better at it, putting a spin on it to make it seem like they're the best option for charitable giving, while at the same time giving exactly NOTHING back to the people supporting them. At least other churches make some kind of effort to do good in the community - soup kitchens, homeless shelters, hospital volunteers, etc.
The WTS is and always has been one of the most greedy opportunistic financial parasites to masquerade as a religion.
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My Child Has Asked Me to Divorce Husband
by HeyThere ini guess i am just venting.
its a mess.
i just dont even know where to start with this crap.
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Scully
Let's say this was not the JW belief system that is causing his behaviour change. Let's say, instead, that he was someone who had distanced himself from an abusive family. After marrying you and having a child with you, he decides he wants to give his abusive family an opportunity to be grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. He gives them a chance and starts to take on the abusive traits that he wanted to get away from so many years earlier, because he has more frequent and intimate contact with the abusers.
You don't accept the abusive behaviour, neither does your child. Your child wants you to divorce your husband because of the abuse. Neither you nor your child want to be subjected to the abuse any more.
When you think about it this way, does it make the decision easier?
Make no mistake, a JW who shows the kind of disdain your husband shows for you IS ABUSING YOU. It's psychological abuse. It's emotional abuse. You may not have bruises or broken bones, but you are being abused. The damage is being done, both to yourself and your child. And don't think that because there has not been physical abuse up till this point that there is no potential for the abuse to escalate into violence.
Start doing things to prepare for a separation. Open a 'secret' bank account and start putting money aside. If you don't work outside the home, start looking for a job so you'll be able to get housing. If you can, rent a storage locker and start moving your things there, or buying items that you and your daughter will need when you leave and store them there. Don't feel that you have to set up a perfect home - stick to absolute necessities for now. A few dishes, a few towels and linens, blankets, non-perishable food items, your documents (birth certificates, marriage certificates, financial records, drivers licence, passports, etc.) You can sleep on air mattresses or on a floor mat on a temporary basis, if worse comes to worse. Get a cheap pay-as-you go cell phone for yourself and your daughter with new phone numbers that your husband will not have for emergencies, or in the event that he cuts off your cell phone service. Start purchasing small denomination gift cards for grocery stores (or Walmart or Target where you can purchase almost anything you need) so you will have "cash" on hand in case you lose access to bank accounts or credit cards or need to be "untraceable". Prepare a "go bag" with essential clothing for yourself and your daughter, essential toiletries, medication, emergency cash and cell phone, and so on, in case you have to leave in a hurry, and keep it at a location your husband does not know about (such as a storage locker or at a friend's house - one your husband doesn't know and who won't disclose your whereabouts to anyone).