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  Funny Shunning....

  by Scully in

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  we were shopping yesterday when i noticed a jw woman from our old congregation in one of the aisles.

  normally i would go up and say hello, because i'm neither dfd or dad, but we were in a bit of a hurry, and i didn't want to spend much time in frivolous small talk.

  a little background on her: when we knew her she was a pioneer, and could very well still be one; her mother is a pioneer; her twin sister is a pioneer, etc.... you get the idea.

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  PS to Dana, which would have been added via an editing feature that had not been disabled, but instead allows me to add another post to my credit....

  Hey, 11 more posts until you make Jedi wanna make it happen today??

  Love, Scully
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  Funny Shunning....

  by Scully in

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  we were shopping yesterday when i noticed a jw woman from our old congregation in one of the aisles.

  normally i would go up and say hello, because i'm neither dfd or dad, but we were in a bit of a hurry, and i didn't want to spend much time in frivolous small talk.

  a little background on her: when we knew her she was a pioneer, and could very well still be one; her mother is a pioneer; her twin sister is a pioneer, etc.... you get the idea.

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  LOL thanks everyone for adding your funny shunning stories to mine. Having a sense of humour sure helps, and although I know as a JW I was guilty of participating in shunning, I sure hope I never made myself look so ridiculous!! Unfortunately, I fear that's not possible.... whenever I see pictures or TV shows from the 70's and 80's, I think, oh my god, what were they thinking?? seeing the hairstyles and clothes from those years.... there are pictures to prove that I was just as bad!! LOL

  Love, Scully

  
  
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  Do-Not-Call Flyer Text: Your comments please.

  by expatbrit in

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  i jotted down a draft for a flyer aimed at the general public who know next-to-nothing about the jw's.

  i've tried to be calm and rational in the feel of the text, to avoid giving the impression of having an axe to grind.. i think having suggested pro-forma letters on the back of the flyer would be good, perhaps with the addresses of the local congregation and branch office already filled in.. the flyer would need to be tweaked for different countries where, for instance, not-at-home slips are no longer used.. so, please let me know what you think.

  be brutal!.

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  Expatbrit:

  I think the text itself is excellent. I'd run it through the spell-checker to correct the it's/its, etc, to spruce up the credibility and professionalism, but otherwise it's fine.

  Do we know when exactly the Dateline episode is going to air?? Maybe it would be better to refer the reader to an issue that's currently in the news (the case that's going on in the US for instance) rather than a program that is anticipated, coming soon, etc. It may turn the public off the same way the 'coming soon' predictions of Armageddon from the JWs do.... just a thought.

  I think it would also be great to include a window sticker that looks something like this:
  

  Love, Scully

  
  
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  Scriptures JWs Would Prefer to Ignore

  by Room 215 in

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  here are my nominations for scripture jws would like to see go away.

  in all cases they're reduced to the ``yes, but'' defense; i.e.

  john 14:2-- ``in my father's house are many mansions.".

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  Romans 14:1-6 Welcome the [man] having weaknesses in [his] faith, but not to make decisions on inward questionings. One [man] has faith to eat everything, but the [man] who is weak eats vegetables. Let the one eating not look down on the one not eating, and let the one not eating not judge the one eating, for God has welcomed theat one. Who are you to judge the house servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand for Jehovah can make him stand. One [man] judges one day as above another; another [man] judges one day as all others; let each [man] be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day observes it to Jehovah. Also he who eats, eats to Jehovah, for he gives thanks to god; and he who does not eat does not eat to Jehovah, and yet gives thanks to God.

  I love using this scripture when a JW starts criticizing about the observance of holidays and birthdays. They don't know how to respond to it.

  Love, Scully

  
  
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  Funny Shunning....

  by Scully in

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  we were shopping yesterday when i noticed a jw woman from our old congregation in one of the aisles.

  normally i would go up and say hello, because i'm neither dfd or dad, but we were in a bit of a hurry, and i didn't want to spend much time in frivolous small talk.

  a little background on her: when we knew her she was a pioneer, and could very well still be one; her mother is a pioneer; her twin sister is a pioneer, etc.... you get the idea.

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  We were shopping yesterday when I noticed a JW woman from our old congregation in one of the aisles. Normally I would go up and say hello, because I'm neither DFd or DAd, but we were in a bit of a hurry, and I didn't want to spend much time in frivolous small talk. A little background on her: when we knew her she was a pioneer, and could very well still be one; her mother is a pioneer; her twin sister is a pioneer, etc.... you get the idea. She was one of the people in the congregation who seemed to lead the gossip mill, always ready to point out someone's spiritual weaknesses and assassinate their character behind their back. But, it was overlooked because she's a pioneer and her victims were not.

  Anyway, we were waiting at the checkout, and she pulls up her shopping cart two aisles over from where we are. I gave a friendly wave hello and instead of waving back, she puts her hand up in front of her face like a shield, as if it will keep us from noticing her. I immediately burst out laughing. We paid for our things and went to the car.

  As it turned out, her car was parked right in front of ours. We were waiting for hubby to return to the car after going to the mailbox in front of the store entrance, and Sister StuckUp pulls her shopping cart in place, looks directly at me with a sour-puss glare, and then proceeds to turn her back to me. She unloaded her shopping cart into her car, keeping her back to me the whole time. This was quite an accomplishment, because it would have been a lot easier for her had she been facing me, or at least didn't feel it necessary to put on "the show" for me. I started laughing again, and rolled down my window, so she could hear me. She was clearly rattled by my being there.

  Anyway, just thought I'd share that with you. I thought it was hilarious in a pathetic sort of way.

  Love, Scully

  
  
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  Can a jw be punished for withholding sex?

  by nightwing02 in

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  my wife and i have seperated,and i had to talk to the elders yesterday one of the things they asked did i withhold sex from my wife?

  odd question ?

  or is it just me?

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  Farkel writes:

  If dub wives were punished for withholding sex, there would only be male dubs in the religion

  Imbue writes:

  This is true but from the other way around. I know several wives whose husbands haven't touched them for years (10 sometimes 20 years).

  Sad but true, when you aren't allowed to have sex until the wedding night, you don't know how important that aspect of the relationship is going to be. When it becomes painfully obvious that you aren't sexually compatible, you have no recourse, unless you're willing to get yourself DFd by committing adultery.

  I know that of which I speak. I'm one of those wives who Imbue refers to.

  Love, Scully

  
  
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  What changes ?

  by happy man in

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  do you want, in the jw religion, and can you thinking of going back if they come?

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  DFing/shunning needs to be done away with.
  The blood transfusion issue needs to be done away with.
  The subjugation of women needs to be done away with.
  The preaching work should be completely voluntary, with no time reporting; otherwise it needs to be done away with.
  The evasion of paying taxes by the WTS needs to be rectified.
  The charitible status of the WTS needs to be documented with real charitible works, such as homeless shelters, food banks, soup kitchens, relief operations for people who lose their homes to fire or natural disasters.
  The derogatory view of post-secondary education needs to be done away with.
  The rules regarding morality need to be revisited and modified. People are more sexually aware now than they ever were, and expecting people to wait until their wedding night is archaic. If they make the choice to do so, that's one thing. Forcing them to comply with the rule on pain of disfellowshipment is quite another. Couples who divorce should not need the other to commit adultery in order to be allowed to remarry with the congregation's blessing.
  The doctrine of the 'little flock' and the 'other sheep' needs to be done away with.
  Pedophiles should not be protected by a "two eyewitness" rule.
  Abusers (including wife beaters and child beaters) should not be protected by a "two eyewitness" rule.
  Elders, who claim 'clergy privilege' when confronted by authorities, should respect that privilege and refrain from gossip and slander within the congregation.

  That's just the beginning of my list. Even if they met all of the criteria, I have been so abused by JWs (who are just following WTS policy) I don't think it would be enough to make me want to go back. EVER.

  Love, Scully

  
  
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  Witness man shunned

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  http://www.canoe.ca/nationalticker/canoe-wire.jehovahs-transfusion.html.

  march 10, 2002 .

  jehovah's witness man shunned after consenting to daughter's blood transfusion.

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  The kicker in this, for the father, is that if he had said nothing, his daughter would have received blood transfusions anyway. The court that originally heard the case found that she did not qualify as a "mature minor" with the ability to make this kind of medical decision on her own behalf.

  I really feel for him. Hopefully one day his daughter will realize the sacrifice he made for her benefit.

  Love, Scully

  
  
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  Do men and women leave the Borg for Diff...Reasons

  by tyydyy in

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  i was wondering about he differences between men and women.

  could it be that women leave for different reasons than men?

  do men tend to leave because of evidence and logic?

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  Whether we have emotional or logical issues with the WTS that ends up making us leave, either case can cause what psychologists refer to as "cognitive dissonance". Here's the definition of that term from my medical dictionary:

  a state of tension resulting from a discrepancy in a person's emotional

  and intellectual frame of reference for interpreting and coping with his or her environment. It usually occurs when new information contradicts existing assumptions or knowledge. - Mosby's Medical, Nursing & Allied Health Dictionary, 4th Ed, 1994.For both my husband and myself, it was an issue of how people were being treated, so the cognitive dissonance had an emotional trigger in our case. When we tried to resolve that by stepping up the intellectual process and researching what our gut was telling us, we discovered the intellectual dishonesty of the GB (with the inappropriate translation in the NWT, misquotes in the Creation book, for example), the false prophecies as a matter of habit rather than mere human error, and the use of disfellowshipping and shunning to silence dissent. It didn't take much research once I was in nursing school to realize the information that JWs had on blood transfusions was horribly slanted and biased in favour of WT doctrine.

  Either way, for men and women, if the triggering event is emotional, then the person uses an intellectual approach to try to stabilize the 'attack' to the emotional aspect, and vice versa. When the attempt to reconcile the triggering event fails, the person realizes the need to modify their behaviour, and change has to take place in order to resolve the dissonance.

  Love, Scully

  
  
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  JW's Offer Me A Plea Bargain.

  by Englishman in

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  i havent mentioned this before because, when it happened i was quite rattled.. there was a knock at the door a little while back, and who should be stood there but john dayment, the fella who used to be my dads assistant when he was po of weston super mare, back in the 60s.. he had with him another chappy, i think that his name was rod something, and they both launched into how good it would be to see me make my way back.

  apparently they were both elders, and this was my once a year visit.

  i was disinclined to be rude because my mum is still in contact with john hey, for all i know he might be my step-father one day!

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  Englishman:

  I would have asked them if they were asking me back as a kind of statistical plumping up of the congregation.

  Love, Scully