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  Justice for the Silent Lambs

  by i_wanna_know in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  wanted to let y'all know that the watchman sight i told ya about a while back is now gunning it to the legal deprtment at the ol' watchtower.

  quite a ripper on the whole silentlambs thing on line, too.

  maybe someone could even pass word for this one?.

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  DeProgram

  Thanks for the link ,I found this site very well done and grew encouragement from there thoughts on Silent Lambs... Bravo
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  ANY PREDICTION ON SILENTLAMBS DEMONSTRATION?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  other than bad press, do you think there will be a good result of the picketing?

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  I am sure there Arrogance will rain supreme
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  WT6-15-02 ?from readers-funerals for suicides

  by LyinEyes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the question was this: "if someone committs suicide, would it be advisable for a christain minister to give the funeral talk?

  " ((((((((((((me barfing already here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!))))))))))).

  here are some sick , literally made me feel my blood pressure about to explode , remarks:.

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  DeProgram

  Oh I almost forgot, I couldn't bring myself to go to her Funeral and listen to all that hope of the resurection crap, she should have been taken care of on this side of the res.
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  WT6-15-02 ?from readers-funerals for suicides

  by LyinEyes in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the question was this: "if someone committs suicide, would it be advisable for a christain minister to give the funeral talk?

  " ((((((((((((me barfing already here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!))))))))))).

  here are some sick , literally made me feel my blood pressure about to explode , remarks:.

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  DeProgram

  I Know Ha !!! (true story) Before I DA'd myself and one of the many reasons Was a young married Woman in the Shadow Mountain Cong in Phoenix, Regular Pioneer, at every function was having some problems (dubbed mental problems by all the nosey ones in the cong) she was seen meeting with the Elders after several meetings (what a pain those poor busy brothers have to work all day than listen to complaints all night,was the little voices) anyway she was admonished for her problems to take in more personell study etc. For Gods sake she was practicly living at the KH as it was. Evidently,she was having some sort of mental breakdown, gossip was she was abused by her Elder father (blasfimy rang out in the ranks) well she did find relief from her mentall termoil that came in the form of tossing herself of the freeway overpass into oncoming traffic. Yes she was killed, what got me was the lack of compassion for this poor sister, (yes she really suffered da de da da da) I blame the Elders for her death because of the lack of these words. Maybe you should take a break and seek some proffesional help, I can recommend a few good ones. Murder I say, Her Husband took it remakably well, bought himself a Viper sports car, and a Norton Motorcycle with his earnings and moved into a nice new fancy house in another city, I understand he took it really hard...NP
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  Occult symbol in the WTS literature?

  by Nordic in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

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  here is a link .

  www.bigwig.net/knots/nightmares/occult.htm try it.

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  DeProgram

  I heard a story a while back that one of the artists at Bethel was DF'D for incorporating pictures in his pictures , these may be examples of this artist, One thing that has bothered me is the frequincy in wich they use the words Satan ,or Satan the Devil, I have heard them refer to him as ruler of this world 100's of times, this would seem to be more subliminal than the pictures to me, I remember seeing some parents give there kids a job to keep them busy counting how many times they here the word Jehovah during a meeting or assembly, I have since wondered what count you would come up with if you were to count Satan the Devil and Jehovah seperatly ,wich one would be mentioned more...NP
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  What JWs are passing out in response to Silentlamb

  by Joyzabel in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was outraged when i read what a friend of ours was given him by 2 jws yesterday when he asked them the question about the child molestation issue.

  i can't belive the jws have the guts to pass this stuff out.

  the people we were with at lunch today all looked at it and was replused at the wt's reply.. what do you think?.

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  Oh yeah I forgot ,it was that 16 year old Boy having sex with the 14 year old girl that has everyone ready to linch the GB, yea thats it, Someone needs to tell them that Denile isn't a river in Egypt, again they give the Silent Lambs the back of there hand, what about the Boy in Australia that was being sodomized in the bathroom in the KH, one of as many as 40 victems by this bookstudy conducter,what about all the young boys and young girls 4 years old JW'S need to study up on Hell because I would like to send them there, Today would be nice...NP
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  brutalized toddlers

  by little witch in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  does anyone remember the advice from from the stage, encouraging mothers to remove babies from the room when they were hungry?.

  how about, wooden spoons to beat toddlers into submission, preferably in front of the congegation, as to set an example in disipline?

  was this just in our hall, or was it from the borg?

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  DeProgram

  I could go on and on on this one believe me, How bout the sister that would use her middle Knuckle to the top of her 4 year olds head, that worked he was probably seing stars for the next 5 minutes, no one ever stopped her this went on for years,it was bad in my hall ,it got so bad the niebors called the police and complained because they got tired of all the kids screaming and being beat outside of the hall,I witnessed pinchings that left bruises ,slaps that left swollen faces you name it, when I had my own son at a meeting at around 2 years old he was squirming around and making a little fuss, one of the attendants, his grandfather tapped me on the shoulder and told me to take my son out and disipline him, I knew what he ment ,I took my son out alright, to the car and home so he could play like a 2 year old is suppose to, they never bothered me again about it in fact some of the other parents took my example and quit beating there kids, I felt so much joy for saving some kids a beating. The one that really stands out in my mind thow is a brother that I grew up with got married and had a daughter, this was long before I had my son, anyway we were at a District Convention and I say him standing outside with his cute little daughter, she was about 2 ,He looked me sqaurley in the eyes and said you know the way they treat there kids around here is wrong, I said what do you mean, he said I cannot see any reason to beat a 2 to 3 year old child for not sitting still at an all day convention, he walked out to his car and that was the last time I ever saw him, literally...NP
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  I'm Upset and Annoyed

  by Scully in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my brother (raised a jw, never baptized, not a jw at all) and i were talking this morning, and he informed me that our grandmother - our last living grandparent - is very ill. it sounds as though she will die soon, because she stopped taking her insulin and all other medications.

  my mother informed my brother after receiving a phone call from her brother/my uncle.. i'm the only one of my siblings who was not informed directly by our mother.

  out of all my siblings, i'm the only one who was baptized as a jw and then left, so i'm thinking this is par for the course with being shunned, although my grandmother was never a jw herself.

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  DeProgram

  Scully, What are you kidding, It's Time we quit playing there game, Don't give them this power over you, march over to the phone, or march over there, Act as if this is your business to and show up,I have always done this, they usually don't have the were withall when it comes to face to face, there better at behind your back stabbing, take your place, let them make asses out of themselves and you will see God has the power to set them straight, after all who are they, a minority trying to abuse there power, I myself took my family back and refused to give them this evil power...NP
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  DF story in Detroit Newspaper on Shirley Jackson

  by blondie in

  1. social
  2. current

  http://www.detnews.com/2002/religion/0208/30/d05w-574630.htm

  the detroit news

  'disfellowshipped' jehovah's witnesses speak out against practice.

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  DeProgram

  One thing you have to keep in mind, this DF thing can have a wide range of uses in a closed society, I know from experiance, It is very handy to keep child abuse issues hushed, I beleive that is why this sister was DF'd to hush her up about the child abuse case she was involved in, Sorry for your loss Shirly, I was hushed for a simular reason, I was speaking out in anger over my abuses growing up in Org.
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  silentlambs U K

  by silentlambs in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings from the uk!

  we were invited to a conference to speak on sl issues and had a very productive weekend.

  it appears many here are very aware of the abuse issue and want to get involved.

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  DeProgram

  cc Glad things are moving forward, WT should have done something about this a long time ago, you can't cover up something that God doesn't want covered up , My prayers are with the Children, and Adult Children of Child Abuse , God will sort out the perps, Gods Speed Bill Bowen.