Posts by Spiral

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The real dividing line isn’t between apostates and apologists it’s between...

by slimboyfat in

excellent observation from zizek about communist regimes: they didn’t care if people accepted the ideology or took it seriously, so long as people acted as if the ideology was true, that was the important thing.

in fact the regimes were deeply suspicious people who took the ideology too seriously.

people who took the ideology seriously were dangerous because they were prone to noticing the inconsistencies and flaws in the system.

Spiral

joey jojo: "Someone else on another topic posted a comment that rings true about JW's, sorry I cant find the posters name.

Basically, JW's claim to have deep-seated, personal convictions, but in reality it just isn't true.

Their deep-seated, personal convictions are whatever the latest Watchtower tells them to have."

These days, I think this is exactly the problem. A lot of JWs just seem totally disengaged from any sort of serious discussion. It's all about belonging to the megachurch (although, they still think they are above all that, which is really funny).

There is so little real "knowledge" left that's it's all about belonging and pretending to be special. All noise, no substance. No thinkers are left, just followers.

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Creepy display

by neat blue dog in

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i dunno about you, but if i walked up to this display at an expo i'd be a little creeped out..

Spiral

All of this is creepy, but especially Caleb and Sofia.

Ugh.

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Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

by thedepressedsoul in

i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

Spiral

This is interesting, because (for a while, quite a few years ago) they were all worried about elders keeping phone lists of publishers and giving them out. "What if there was persecution? Why the police could get that list, and everyone would be in jail!" Everyone in our congregation had to throw our phone lists out.

And yet now they have it all where someone could get all the info all in one place.

It does make you wonder if they know Armageddon isn't coming, but it's easier to keep the publishers believing it is.

And I bet it wouldn't be that hard to hack. (Assuming someone is interested.)

Could you make any additions or edits to the information? Can the elders?

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How Does It Make You Feel Kids?

by neat blue dog in

a recent printable kids activity asks kids to describe their feelings when marketing various jwdotorg products:.

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meanwhile, here's a recent public post from harvest inn's social media profile:.

Spiral

This "Become Jehovah's Friend" stuff just makes me want to barf.

Probably a lot of kids feel the same way.

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Hotels Deny Watchtower Discount Rates For 2020 Regional Conventions

by JW GoneBad in

the wtbts is not being given special room rates by 2 major hotels at the long beach convention center area for the upcoming 2020 regional conventions & wt is t'd off.

letters are being read in surrounding circuits and congregations.

apparently wt is afraid that other hotels are going to blackball them as well.. has anyone else heard this?

Spiral

Anyone who has been around the business world probably knows this. Years ago I worked at a job where I'd have to plan travel (not a hard task as the company had a travel agent) and she explained the perk system to me.

A few years later (as we were starting to fade) we'd frequently plan to go to a different convention (easy to skip most of it) and we always just booked where we wanted to stay. I doubt we ever paid more for the same type of room. Plus we'd get the points, or whatever was on offer.

Always good to know how things really work.

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Do You Think Jehovah’s Witnesses Are A Threat To Any Government?

by minimus in

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russia believes they are a threat.

the usa has put witnesses in jail in the past.

other countries look at jws as a nuisance.. do you think the witnesses are a threat to governments?

Spiral

Nah.

They might sound extremist on the surface, but we all know they are really too lazy - er, passive, god fearing - to actually do anything of substance against a government, beyond tax evasion.

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The only thing Jehovah gives Hurricane Dorian survivors is.....''the strength to cope with their difficulty and distress.''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

this article is from jw.org newsroom.

audioaudio download options historic hurricane dorian pummels bahamas.

hurricane dorian, one of the most powerful storms ever recorded in the atlantic ocean, made landfall as a category 5 storm on great abaco island in the northern bahamas on sunday morning, september 1, 2019. dorian is especially dangerous due to its slow movement, high wind speeds, and heavy rains.

Spiral

"thoughts and prayers" - the same sappy thought that comes from many religions, which means nothing.

I also don't understand why any of these people believe in a God who loves to watch suffering, and never steps in to help. What's the point?

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PIMO Elder with a Dilemma

by xjwsrock in

i haven’t been on here in awhile and this is my second user name because i was busted by my pimi wife on the first one.

i have been basically awake since 2013. i have a super dub wife that i love and don’t want to lose and my sick mom in the hall that is a true believer.

stupid religion has gotten between my wife and i (of course).

Spiral

After reading all these comments, I'd have to say, just go for it. Jump off that pier and swim. Removal or stepping down, whichever works best for you.

I know your wife will get "sympathy bombed" - or should I say "sympathy shamed" - by other sisters, but it won't last long.

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