Posts by siegswife

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HOW LONG WERE YOU A JW?

by hamptonite21 in

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93 did the dunk!

99 df'd

siegswife

I was only in for 5 years, 1984 (how appropriate) to 1989. I was a bible study for about 3 years prior to being baptised.

I've recently been wondering why I even got involved to begin with, and why it hurt so much when I left. Reading this board, and some of the subjects being brought up have made me realize that I never really believed alot of what they teach.

1914...nope. I thought it was my fault that I didn't understand it though.

Every nonJW being wiped out....never believed it.

Blood...nope. I was glad my ex wasn't a JW because of my kids and I honestly wouldn't have to have been persuaded too much to agree for them to get blood if needed.

Door to heaven shut in 1935...nope...never believed it.

Birthdays and holidays...I did see something to what they were saying, and it was no big deal for me to give them up, but while reading the Bible on my own I discovered that Job's kids celebrated. I still didn't think it was a major issue until I was able to connect some more dots regarding the meaning of 'day'. That's another story.

Those are just the tip of the iceberg. I left because of not agreeing with other scriptual issues, like the locusts.

Anyway, I wonder what was up with me that I was so taken in by a cult that teaches things that I never really believed....

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The witnesses are right, IF humans are worthless

by NaomiB in

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when we think about the god of the old testament, we see a deity that would wipe out 75,000 people, for the mistakes of king david.

we see a god who killed 23,000 in one day, for fratranizing with the enemy.

according to the jehovah's witnesses, today is no different.

siegswife

I wonder what makes people feel it's neccessary to judge anyone as being worthy to "be destroyed at Armageddon". If someone believes in God, why do they need to focus on the destruction of other men?

Isn't it better to see what good exists in the world and try to be a part of that aspect of life?

I don't concern myself with trying to determine whether someone is so "bad" that they deserve to die. I don't recall ever being appointed to the position where it's my job to do that. I'd rather look for the good in people, and try not to be hurtful towards others in my own life.

Don't we all die eventually, regardless of how "good" or "bad" we perceive ourselves to be?

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What are You all Doing Here?

by TisInYourWishbone in

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a friend of mine recommended i peruse this forum because he is of the impression i would find it rewarding.

the basis of his recommendation was due to a very long friendship and not due to any association (that i do not have) with jehovahs witnesses.

he considers me his superior in intellect and wants an appraisal of this sight but to be honest i have neither the incliniation nor the time to get in deep enough to comment.

siegswife

What am I doing here? Well, right now I'm wishing I had a nice big blunt so that my mind would get to a place where I might understand what you are doing here.

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Would You Like Milk with That Cookie?

by teenyuck in

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i saw this on the local news last night.

i looked it up and it's true!!!.

an 8 year old being allowed to breast feed!!!!.

siegswife

Yowza! Breastfeeding an 8 yr. old boy seems a bit extreme to me. I agree with detective that mom should be trying to help her son find other methods of comforting himself. That's how you teach your kids to be independent and self reliant.

Where's dad in all this? Does he have a problem with his wife breastfeeding their 8 yr. old son? I didn't read the article, so I apologize if that question's addressed in there somewhere. The reason I ask is because my hubby and I are going through a similar situation with our 5 yr old daugher regarding a "comfort" issue.

We (I) allowed her to sleep with us up until last year and we're having a little problem keeping her from coming into our bed at night when she wakes up now. The problem is that her sleeping next to us was a comfort issue with me as well as her. When she was an infant, Sieg and I separated for awhile because of alcohol abuse issues. During that time, she slept with me since we were crashing at my oldest son's house. After we reunited, she continued sleeping with us until we decided that it would be best for her to start sleeping in her own room. She's a fitful sleeper (which is why she wakes up often during the night) and obviously getting too old/big to sleep with us. At this point, she's doing pretty well staying in her room, but she doesn't really have the knack of comforting herself if she wakes up from a bad dream (or because she kicks around so darn much).

The point is that my husband and I are working on helping her to develop that ability together. I don't think that I'd be so inclined to force the issue if he wasn't involved. Like I said, it's a comfort issue for me as well. I think it may be for this mom as well, and she should really let go of her son on this. Isn't that what we do when we teach them to grow up? Let them go a little bit at a time?

All I know is that if my daughter is still wanting to sleep in bed with us all the time when she's 8, I'd have to really put my foot down and probably make her feel rejected. That's waaaaay too old for that sort of thing imo.

That mother is doing a disservice to her son, but I'm not among the ewwwwwww crowd.

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Who Voted Today?

by Scarlet in

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they are saying in california that we will have a record low turn out at the polls.

i did my duty and voted first thing this morning.

i just hope who i voted for wins!!!!!

siegswife

I did, and I voted in a way I've never done before...democrats all across the line. It's time for a regime change here too.

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OMG What have i done!

by Shytears in

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hey everyone.i know im in trouble now deep deep shit !i went to my highschool football game last night,its like the biggest game of the year,well yall all know im a witness and im baptized.i meant up with some of my friends from school and the guy i like and his friends.we walked around and talked and you know goofed off,me and him went to his friends car,we ended up having sex.omg i cant believe i actually did this,but we used protection.only thing is i feel kinda bad but then i dont,whats the deal,im think im going to get disfellowedshipped oh well.please anyone help me!!!

laura

siegswife

Shytears,

I'm sorry that you're feeling so confused right now, but that's part of the deal when you start having sex. There are alot of questions and realizations that will go through your head for awhile. I hope that you can somehow gain from this experience.

If I could, I'd like to add some of my thoughts those already given to you by others. First, don't tell the elders. That isn't a way to absolve yourself of any guilt you might be feeling. If you still believe in God, I think you might want to pray to Him about what you're going through. There's a reason why you chose to do what you did, and I don't think it neccessarily has to do with sex.

Don't be surprised if the boy tells his friends. If he's really got a thing for you or is concerned about your reputation, he might not. If his friends are cool, it may not get any further than them.

In my experience, one night stands suck...I know that everyone doesn't feel that way, but given your age, even if you don't find that to be true you should probably wait until your older to go that route. That way you won't have to pay the rest of your life for foolish mistakes you made when you were young. Wait until your older and more comfortable in your own skin to make such possibly life altering decisions.

Wishing you the best,

Lea

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What's Your WORST Vice???

by minimus in

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now that you no longer have any real restrictions, have you allowed yourself to do something "naughty"?

what's your worst vice?

siegswife

Internet addiction. I have to force myself not to go online sometimes and feel very sad about it for a couple of days (withdrawl)...

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Can any believer answer this?

by LucidSky in

it was the point i decided to become agnostic.

i found my final stumbling block in my search for god.

i asked (myself as well as others): why would god create carnivorous animals before sin?

siegswife

Here's the way I see it. Bear in mind that I'm no science wiz so I might not use the right words to express myself. I think that the process of life itself contains death. On a molecular level, that which sustains and creates life is dependent on some level of death and rejuvenization. The existence of death is a reflection of our very nature. Some things, like animals and vegitation weren't ever meant to "live forever", so death would have always existed regardless of "sin" entering the picture. I believe that it is when the forces that govern our lives started to bring about the outcome of death, rather than life is the result of "sin". Sorry that this is all one paragraph, my enter key isn't working for some reason...

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Christmas Gift Exchange Gimme Gimme Wantme List

by scootergirl in

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i think it is time to stop cheerleading for the christmas gift x-change......we have quite a few names and i am really excited!

i am crossing off names as they post to this thread...... .

gentlyferal beckmelbourne truckergbveniceit pettygrundger talley mamashel nilfun beautifulgarbage orangefatcat been_there simon angharad heaven vickie butalbeexenawarrior mouthy animal debradoll ladylee mulan the_star joannadandy searchin50 happy2b scarlet randomtask celia siegswife caligirl waiting tinkerbell4125cc ridercoolbreeze onacruise/bikerchick ballistic windchaser flower elsewhere queer_reality kelpie revmalk funkyderek grout notinterested joy2bfree connielyne valis cowboy englishman plumkrzy lyineyes dutchie eyegirl scootergirl perry syn scully mac trotafax lovesdubs wild_thing lilacs yerusalyimbobsgirldawnmackincassiline maximumflash granny linda sortafairytale.

siegswife

I like surprises!

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Social retards

by Simon in

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i've been thinking a lot recently about the interaction between people in the exjw community and it seem to me that the "jw experience" (sounds like a theme park ride doesn't it?

) polarises behavior somewhat between two extremes:.

we know in the jw scheme of things that friendships are very 'superficial'.

siegswife

Simon, I think that the JW's attract those of us who are socially retarded anyway, without the benefit of being raised a Jdub. LOL

Seriously though, I pretty much always felt like I couldn't or didn't fit in, even before I became a JW. One thing I've realized as I get older though is that most people are pretty much socially retarded. I don't think it's a phenomenon that only occurs with people raised in a cult-like atmosphere. People are people everywhere. You have some that are superficial on a social level and people that are looking for deep connections. You have people that cautious and people who wear their hearts on their sleeve.

I used to play at another non JW board for a couple of years (I was the drug czar...lol) and let me tell you that place wasn't immune to flame wars either. These people had known each other (online) for years and still would take offense, be offensive and all the same shit that goes on here.

Take heart, 'normal' is a figment of our imaginations if we think it's something other than what we are.