So from what l can find Tories wanted an ammendment to the bill to include an enquiry into the grooming gang scandal and Labour voted against that
I can't find anything about Tories voting against the Bill . Where does that come from?
Jan from Tam
the english legal system's independent inquiry into child sexual abuse has issued its final report, and its recommendations.
to read the report in full just google iicsa report, if you search on the iicsa site you can find the specific investigation into j.w's.. but this recommendation from the final report is interesting, esp.
the first and last sentences.
So from what l can find Tories wanted an ammendment to the bill to include an enquiry into the grooming gang scandal and Labour voted against that
I can't find anything about Tories voting against the Bill . Where does that come from?
Jan from Tam
awhile ago i said on here i would like to show how wrong the jehovahs witness organisation is , in that they will not accept the testimony of a victim of sexual crime where the victim has no other witnesses to the crime.
i faced this with helping my ex wife for about 15 years in exposing her father , an elder, to the jw org.
his raping of her over years and they believed him.. so therefore the perpetrator knowing of the organisations stance can easily deny and therefore be free to pretend to serve as an innocent jw still mixing with the congregation ,and also i have witnessed an accused perpetrator of child molestation witnessing at my next door neighbors house in field service with a child of another family even though the elders knew of the accusations against him.
I'm British and l can categorically say that Britain for one has not become a hellhole 3rd world country .
Have you been here recently? Where do you get this information from ?
Back to the topic. I'm ruddy positive that the two witness rule doesn't and shouldn't apply to this situation. Who on earth is going to sexually assault or rape a child in front of someone else who isn't a fellow paedophile.
DNA and other evidence obviously helps but very often children need to work up the courage to tell someone about abuse. It maybe that an abused child waits until they are an adult to report an abuser . By then any physical evidence will be gone .
Jan from Tam
the english legal system's independent inquiry into child sexual abuse has issued its final report, and its recommendations.
to read the report in full just google iicsa report, if you search on the iicsa site you can find the specific investigation into j.w's.. but this recommendation from the final report is interesting, esp.
the first and last sentences.
Thank you for that clarification Phizzy
Jan from Tam
the english legal system's independent inquiry into child sexual abuse has issued its final report, and its recommendations.
to read the report in full just google iicsa report, if you search on the iicsa site you can find the specific investigation into j.w's.. but this recommendation from the final report is interesting, esp.
the first and last sentences.
The sanctity of the confessional is , obviously, for people who CONFESS their sins. However if a child goes to a priest to report that they have been abused then that isn't a confession.
Surely then they should report this.
Jan from Tam
https://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-oppose-removal-of-tax-status-in-canadian-proposal.html.
the proposed change will revoke charitable status of canadian churches who have an anti-abortion position, and will not give tax exemptions to organizations whose sole claim is to promote religion, which is the basic claim for all jw related entities in canada.
this will be interesting!.
Hosier, so why did people keep voting for him?
Jan from Tam
https://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-oppose-removal-of-tax-status-in-canadian-proposal.html.
the proposed change will revoke charitable status of canadian churches who have an anti-abortion position, and will not give tax exemptions to organizations whose sole claim is to promote religion, which is the basic claim for all jw related entities in canada.
this will be interesting!.
Thanks everyone for the clarification
Jan from Tam
https://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-oppose-removal-of-tax-status-in-canadian-proposal.html.
the proposed change will revoke charitable status of canadian churches who have an anti-abortion position, and will not give tax exemptions to organizations whose sole claim is to promote religion, which is the basic claim for all jw related entities in canada.
this will be interesting!.
Touchofgrey , individual church members pay taxes so fund the health and social services in their countries.
Jan from Tam
https://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-oppose-removal-of-tax-status-in-canadian-proposal.html.
the proposed change will revoke charitable status of canadian churches who have an anti-abortion position, and will not give tax exemptions to organizations whose sole claim is to promote religion, which is the basic claim for all jw related entities in canada.
this will be interesting!.
" whose sole claim is to promote religion "
Doesn't that describe most churches including those with no specific anti abortion stance ?
Or would churches that also engage in charitable activities be exempt? Most churches , certainly here in the UK , do strive to help people who are not congregation members in all sorts of ways .
However preaching the Gospel is the raison d'etre of all churches .
Jan from Tam
we have a 25 year guy in our hall who is also a pioneer (which means he lives off his parents money), who likes to spend a lot of time with a 16 year old girl in the hall.
it is usually in a group setting but he seems to gravitate toward her.
he even has her auxilary pioneering , which is something i don't think any student trying to make the grades needs.
Dio yes that does seem sensible in that situation.
Thank you
Jan from Tam
we have a 25 year guy in our hall who is also a pioneer (which means he lives off his parents money), who likes to spend a lot of time with a 16 year old girl in the hall.
it is usually in a group setting but he seems to gravitate toward her.
he even has her auxilary pioneering , which is something i don't think any student trying to make the grades needs.
I got married for the first time at the age of 16 . I had to have my parents written permission. My now late husband had just turned 19 .
We had 42 happy years together until he died .
So l don't know what to think of the new law . I was pregnant at the time and we wanted our child to be legitimate.
This law would force young people to give birth while not married. I know that to many people that's not important but to some it might be .
Jan from Tam