there are no real numbers for jws but they are a relatively small group.
compared to the number of catholics at least.. the australian commission gathered more than 5000 cases with over 1000 perpetrators that went completely unreported for the jws.
likewise they did the same for catholics and collected just under 4800 cases with 1880 perpetrators.
Phizzy you are spot on about churches in UK having Safeguarding Programmes and Safeguarding Officers.
Anyone who is in any kind of leadership role is required to do Safeguarding courses. As a member of the PCC , the people who take care of practical matters in the church , l have had to do two Safeguarding courses .
There is a Safeguarding Officer and all church members are encouraged to report anything that they feel is not " right" .
Jan from Tam
i have been lurking around here for years.
i'm not a witness, but my in-laws are.
my wife grew up in it but was never baptized.
Wow definitely Bah Humbug Blues Brother - Scrooge reincarnated 🤣.
Maybe people with youngsters in the family, children and Grandchildren would be happy to start celebrating Christmas.
It's very isolating for children particularly to have to stay out of Christmas celebrations at school for instance, as you must know .
Jan from Tam
from my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
Rattigan do you disagree with Jesus' words ?
Jan from Tam
from my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
Oooh that's not as clear as l thought it would be . I hope that ya'll can read it .
It's one of the daily readings from Word for Today . I feel that it clearly shows the difference between WT teaching about salvation and mainstream teaching .
Jan from Tam
from my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.
salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.
to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.
the english legal system's independent inquiry into child sexual abuse has issued its final report, and its recommendations.
to read the report in full just google iicsa report, if you search on the iicsa site you can find the specific investigation into j.w's.. but this recommendation from the final report is interesting, esp.
the first and last sentences.
So from what l can find Tories wanted an ammendment to the bill to include an enquiry into the grooming gang scandal and Labour voted against that
I can't find anything about Tories voting against the Bill . Where does that come from?
Jan from Tam
awhile ago i said on here i would like to show how wrong the jehovahs witness organisation is , in that they will not accept the testimony of a victim of sexual crime where the victim has no other witnesses to the crime.
i faced this with helping my ex wife for about 15 years in exposing her father , an elder, to the jw org.
his raping of her over years and they believed him.. so therefore the perpetrator knowing of the organisations stance can easily deny and therefore be free to pretend to serve as an innocent jw still mixing with the congregation ,and also i have witnessed an accused perpetrator of child molestation witnessing at my next door neighbors house in field service with a child of another family even though the elders knew of the accusations against him.
I'm British and l can categorically say that Britain for one has not become a hellhole 3rd world country .
Have you been here recently? Where do you get this information from ?
Back to the topic. I'm ruddy positive that the two witness rule doesn't and shouldn't apply to this situation. Who on earth is going to sexually assault or rape a child in front of someone else who isn't a fellow paedophile.
DNA and other evidence obviously helps but very often children need to work up the courage to tell someone about abuse. It maybe that an abused child waits until they are an adult to report an abuser . By then any physical evidence will be gone .
Jan from Tam
the english legal system's independent inquiry into child sexual abuse has issued its final report, and its recommendations.
to read the report in full just google iicsa report, if you search on the iicsa site you can find the specific investigation into j.w's.. but this recommendation from the final report is interesting, esp.
the first and last sentences.
Thank you for that clarification Phizzy
Jan from Tam
the english legal system's independent inquiry into child sexual abuse has issued its final report, and its recommendations.
to read the report in full just google iicsa report, if you search on the iicsa site you can find the specific investigation into j.w's.. but this recommendation from the final report is interesting, esp.
the first and last sentences.
The sanctity of the confessional is , obviously, for people who CONFESS their sins. However if a child goes to a priest to report that they have been abused then that isn't a confession.
Surely then they should report this.
Jan from Tam
https://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-oppose-removal-of-tax-status-in-canadian-proposal.html.
the proposed change will revoke charitable status of canadian churches who have an anti-abortion position, and will not give tax exemptions to organizations whose sole claim is to promote religion, which is the basic claim for all jw related entities in canada.
this will be interesting!.
Hosier, so why did people keep voting for him?
Jan from Tam
