Some of the biggest tools I knew, were MS's on the elder fastrack. In other words, they just could taste that precious appointment, so they were ridiculously over the top about everything else.
Crazy.
per co last night, he mentioned in his talk that in oder for a brother to be recommended as an elder or ministrial servant he must have a regular and meaningful family worship night.
this will demostrate his willingness not to miss that important meeting and preside over his household.. so i thought, wow what a way to add to the "inspired" biblical list of qualifications.
serving jehovah is sounding more and more and more organizational..
Some of the biggest tools I knew, were MS's on the elder fastrack. In other words, they just could taste that precious appointment, so they were ridiculously over the top about everything else.
Crazy.
ok so we might be moving to fl.
wife wants to get away to start over.
i also want to move but at the right time and to the right place.
Its really about budget as well. I have family in Lakeland and they really like it. You can get a home for 50K that is very serviceable, and it seems to be a generally growing community. It is 45 min to an hour each way to Orlando or Tampa. So if you picked up a job there, it wouldn't be a crazy commute.
Lakeland worth loking into. i think it was named one of the up and coming cities in the nation a couple years ago. not sure how thats working out.
i was listening to a conversation of jws recently about how trusting they are with each other and how out in "the world" you have to be ever so careful that you don't put down your purse or wallet for a minute otherwise it will be stolen.. i entered the conversation with an experience that one of my close friends had.
(true story) he was in a public place with a wallet with significant amount of cash and bank card, credit card, id, etc.. somehow he lost or misplaced the wallet, panicked of course.
he went to the police, cancelled all his cards and thought it was gone for sure.
JW's usually don't steal and are generally good people......you know......like MOST PEOPLE!
after years of looking down on me for not being "in the truth", being told (more or less) that my daughter died because i did not have the "truth" and therefore god's approval.
my sister has, after forty years of marriage and fifty years of being in the truth....left her husband and her dis-fellowshipped son and gone to live with our other sister (who by the way is disassociated).
i am amazed at this turn of events, as i have always been led to believe that they were a fine example of how complete and spiritually protected they were as a family for being in the jw religion.
Lol at "glue of duty"
......yes I'm immature.....deal with it.
my heart is heavy as i write this letter.
i have been trying to live my life as best that i can since leaving jehovah's witnesses.
my dad was not a witness and was my rock when i left the religion.
Ugh. What a difficult situation. May I ask something? Did something you said trigger her question about you reading apostate sites? That seems very out of left field.
I would respond in the way you did to one of the posters here.
Mom, I love you. I have missed having you in my life. You are my only family....my only connection to dad. I have no interest in trying to lead you away from your faith, I simply want to be your daughter. I am not an apostate, or anything else. I am happy to agree to not discuss relgious subjects with you, in fact, I prefer it.
Please just let me love you and be your daughter, and you my mother.
-You
If she responds negatively to this, than you can try to get into the details on why shunning your daughter is inhumane and wrong, but start here and see if she bites. Be loving and empathetic.....its your best chance for her to respond in kind.
i have recently been given the privilege of taking the field service group.. .
can anyone give me some scriptures i can use to encourage the group?
can you also give a reason as to why these scriptures are helpful to our ministry.. .
Hey Panthers. First things first. Did you guys really give up steve smith!? I'm not sure how I feel about that bro.
As far as this board, yes there are people of all sorts here. Some ex-JW's, many current ones, some appointed men and pioneers, etc... I myself stepped down not too long ago because I could no longer in good conscience teach a specific doctrine that I was required to from the platform.
It was either go against my conscience, or stop going. It has been very difficult. I have been villified, lyed about, and claim to be "going against the slave", or have "pre-apostate tendancies". What does that even mean?
I encourage you to take everything you read and hear.....here or in the congregation....with a grain fo salt. Pull up a chair, do a little research, allow yourself to think.
In short.....to quote Steve Smith......"Ice up son!"
i have recently been given the privilege of taking the field service group.. .
can anyone give me some scriptures i can use to encourage the group?
can you also give a reason as to why these scriptures are helpful to our ministry.. .
Romans 8.....the whole thing.
at times i yearn for those i love that are still "in" to just wake up and smell the cult.. i end up feeling sorry for them yet angry at them at the same time.. i know each person is on their own journey and its a process,.
but i just wish the process would hurry up already!.
when will this nightmare end.
Someone once said to me this phrase that has stuck with me.
"The society shoots its wounded."
That is very poigant. Weakness is not treated witht he care and love explained in scripture, it is manipulated and redefined at their whim.
People will wake up, most will not. You need to get on with YOUR life. Be the best you, that you can be. Allow yourself some mistakes.
i keep hoping and doing searches on the site for people in my area.
so far no one i recognize.
i have a few df'd friends that i lost touch with long before they were out (two who were elders actually when they got the boot) and would love to find out they were on here, but don't know if they plan on coming back.
Dazed....I know people in Olympia!
I'm in southern Cali, but I think I'm of the younger apostate variety that most of the ones from so cal on here. New crew.
my window cleaner is a jw and as i am always working when he comes to my house i haven't seen him or spoken to him in years.
the other day i was in my local town and went into a cafe for some lunch.
who is sitting there but my window cleaner and his wife.
If you owe him....pay him. Just be done with it.
Perhaps a small letter with his final check and the following note?
Dear window guy,
I must say, it was very disappointing for me to be publicly shunned by you and your wife, and then be called on for payment not 12 hours later. It was a classless way to act at best. If you cannot bring yourself to act with common human decency, there is no reason for me to continue to trust you with the care of any part of my home. This will be your final payment for services.
I would like to emplore you to reconsider your actions. no doubt you beleive them to be Christian for some reason. Perhaps reconsider the scriptures you are using to engage in such un Christ-like behavior in the context they were intended, rather than the filter of someone elses thoughts and opinions. I have shared this story with others, and it is clear that nobody sees the love and Christianity in such behavior INSTINCTIVELY.
I wish you well, in your personal endeavors. Know this. I will not shun you in public, no matter what you do.
www.jwfacts.com (click on disfellowshipping and shunning)
Just a thought. What a jerk. Hopefully you don't live in Virginia.....I know a window brother out there.