It's amazing how long they agonized over how to deal with something that could have been easily dealt with by minding their own business and staying out of the marital bedroom. If they really were a spirit-guided organization, you would expect that by now the spirit would have told them to stop being nosy old perverts.
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Oral and Anal Sex flip flop? March 2025 Announcements and Reminders
by ukpimo injust in.
a jaw dropping announcements and reminders for elders this month.
how can you serve as an elder and believe this organization is spirit directed after reading this letter?.
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Is Jesus a Created Being? Debate with a Pastor
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/ro6q_osgkns?si=hyxualluhruwvjnb.
—colossians 1:15 from the nwt says it plain as day: “he is the image of the invisible god, the firstborn of all creation.” that’s not vague; it’s got a punch.
“firstborn” and “creation” sit side by side, and in greek, that second word is “ktisis,” which means the physical stuff—trees, stars, you name it.
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JWs used to (still do??) get a basic list of talking points for overcoming objections or answering simple questions about the Bible. The Reasoning book compiled these by subject, giving the rank-and-file a way to respond to many different questions or objections, which gives them the confidence to 'defend' what they believe. They are also taught not to engage if the discussion becomes contentious or if they perceive that they are being preached to (ironic as that may sound).
Keep in mind that most people know about as much about their religion and texts as the average JW. I found most Christians that I encountered knew surprisingly little, so that even the surface-level preparation that I'd gotten from the WTS made me feel as if I had a wealth of knowledge compared to them. Many people are content to serve and worship without getting a more in-depth understanding of their religion. By that standard, many JWs are quite well prepared to have a short debate on almost any Bible subject.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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1 Thessalonians 5:3....Prophecy ?
by HereIam60 ini've always had difficulty understanding how watch tower interprets 1 thessalonians 5:3 as prophetic of a future event - that the nations will unite in a (false) cry that they have achieved 'peace and security' which will signal the start of the great tribulation.
whenever i've read that passage i got the sense that it is simply stating a general principle... that when people are complacent and off-guard, thinking everything is o.k., peaceful and secure then sudden unexpected events hit them harder and they don't know what to do.
when i was first coming in (1980s) i well recall the "true peace and security" book that made a big deal about the un having declared 1986 'the international year of peace'.
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It is like talking about famine or disease or natural disasters as signs of the end. These are things that happen frequently throughout human history, and continue to do so. The UN designated 1986 as the Year of Peace and Security. How much clearer could a sign get? And yet... nothing.
One can interpret it to mean that the end will come when it is least expected. In other words, when the nations are celebrating peace and security (ie, when they feel that things are going as well as can be hoped), that is when the end will be upon them. In other words, it's not necessarily a literal cry of "peace and security" as much as it is a sense of complacency.
The problem is, humanity has been so on edge, constantly predicting the end for centuries. It's as if we will never become complacent. So god might never get a chance to sneak up on us. The ultimate irony: our fervent desire for the end to begin might delay it forever...
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King of the North / South predictions
by Gorb induring my jw.org lifetime since 1970 (2008 we faded out of it all) i read and heared a lot of the king of the north and the south.. but about an aliance between the two kings, that was not a jw.org scenario, wasn't it?.
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PIMA is best so it’s not a shock to the system if the tower collapsed
by JohnR1975 ini know most people here are totally out and that’s fine.. many these days are staying physically in for the social life and that is also fine.. i feel being fully mentally in is dangerous as it could be such a shock mentally if or should i say when the tower collapsed.. im sitting in the fence like so many others here.
mentally agnostic if god exists or not and if the bible is his word.. when i talk to people who are physically and mentally still in i can tell that they so need it to be true.
i’m worried for them when they wake up to the fact that they have been lied to 1914 wasn’t true 1975 wasn’t true 1999 wasn’t true and now here we are 2025 it’s all not true.
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JohnR1975: Ita far as safer to be physically in for the amazing social life and the fact they are so well taken care of
I have to agree with the others: if you think JWs enjoy an amazing social life and are well taken care of, then you really need to get out and discover what it's like to have an actual social life and true personal and financial security. Most JWs are trapped in a kind of social hell that they have to pretend is normal so that they don't go insane.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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Top Jw YouTube channel
by Mit123 inlooks like panda tower has overtaken cedars with 116mil followers.
is he the top jw youtuber?.
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Depression and big pharma drugs
by Anonymous666 ini'm going to drop a bomb shell here for all you who think you know something about depression.
most depression cases are being cause by the food and drug administration.
they are putting things in certain foods that they know will affect certain people especially those who have gluten problems.
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In the past 24 hours, the world has been breaking into fragments. What will be the Outcome??
by liam innew german chancellor merz has won the election.
trump congratulated his victory but the response was not what trump expected.
merz condemned america, saying that america seemed to be aligning with russia.. he also expressed doubts about nato’s future.. he is now advocating that germany must gain independence from usa.
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Vidiot: So… what if “Make America Great Again” really means “Make America a Superpower Again”?
If there's one thing Trump knows, it is marketing. People argue over what is meant by "great" and whether the USA was ever great, depending on the metric used. Trump's whole marketing plan is to complain that politicians have gotten so complacent and corrupt that it has dragged the nation down, thus his plan to pull it out of that tailspin.
I never thought that he would really try to "drain the swamp." He admitted that he was a creature of that same swamp, after all. And I don't think he made an attempt at it in his first term. I think this is more of a revenge tour than a legitimate attempt at fixing our government structure, and I think the task is all but impossible. But I'd also love to see a forced shrinking of the federal government; having the curtain pulled back on at least some of the corruption that is wasting taxpayer money would be a bonus.
This all comes with the obvious caveat: anything that his administration finds that might get Republicans in trouble will almost certainly be ignored in favor of targeting the political left. He won't really drain the swamp as much as he will filter out some of the waste and corruption. And, depending on how things go in the next two/four years, any progress he manages to make might simply be unwound by the next administration.
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