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  I saw this on ex JW Reddit today. Are ANY JW kids even listening to talks anymore with tablets in their hands? :)? lol

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  i got this notification from ex-jw reddit today via email:.

  r/exjw · posted by u/nightmare_dark_shade 1d ago.

  guys, my parents found out i was posting here.

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  DoC: Home schooled and at 19 seems to be wandering aimlessly in life.

  That is a predictable result for someone raised as a JW, at least if they or their parents are all-in. I lucked into a career in IT because things fell into place and it did not feel as if I was going off-plan by doing it. Otherwise, I'd be in my mid-50s, stuck in some dead-end job as a mail clerk and wondering if I would ever be able to retire.

  And I can remember the examples given at conventions, where they would talk about a brother/sister who preferred to lose a job rather than miss a day of the convention. In those examples, they always ended up in a much better situation, proof that Jehovah had rained blessings upon them for their devotion. The message was clear: if you have to make sacrifices for your faith, it will be paid back in multiples. And if your devotion left you without a job and few prospects? Don't expect help from the organization.
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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

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  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  It's funny, I had jokingly wondered recently as to what they would do if the number of partakers grew larger than 144,000.

  The problem with end-times groups is that they tend to set doctrines, policies, and expectations based on the idea that the end will arrive soon. Over time, some of those teachings become untenable and must be modified or discarded, but the core idea of the end being near must not be abandoned. Many times, they go from a strict interpretation to "it's a conscience matter" or "we just don't know." The results are sometimes comical, and sometimes tragic (the stance on blood transfusions is an example of the latter).

  When the number of partakers began to stall --and even increase-- they had to do something about it. So they said "it's not for us to say." The number really ballooned after that, and must be a constant source of frustration for them. So it doesn't surprise me if they say "new light- it's a symbolic number." But now, watch for the number of partakers to increase quickly and substantially over the next few years. The next step would be for them to stop reporting the number of partakers, once they realize how bad it has gotten.
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  Help I'm Being Repressed

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
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  today's news included a small story about a libertarian post on x that endorsed the murder of vice president harris.

  when there was outrage:.

  demands for investigation after nh libertarian party shares threatening harris (msn.com).

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  'We don't want to break the terms we agreed to. Also, we're being repressed.'

  Sooo... you agreed to be repressed, is what you're saying?
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  New Zealand: Supreme Court dismisses Jehovah's Witnesses' final appeal for Abuse in Care exemption

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. child-abuse

  https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/528110/supreme-court-dismisses-jehovah-s-witnesses-final-appeal-for-abuse-in-care-exemption.

  1:10 pm on 16 september 2024 .

  anusha bradley, investigative reporter.

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  TonusOH

  The important thing is that the information is available, so that anyone who wants to know (or know more) can look it up and read it themselves. This is why organizations like the WTS fight so hard to be removed or excluded from the record. Later, when they claim that they are protecting children and that they deal harshly with predators, people can find information that demonstrates that they are lying.

  Now, if they want to deny that they have a problem, they have to explain why there is a growing list of documentation showing that they are a part of the problem. And that the way they have dealt with CSA is shameful. This already has led to changes in their approach, where they are more open to advising victims to contact the authorities instead of warning them to 'keep it in house.' This is what needs to happen. They have to make it very clear that victims should contact the authorities ASAP, instead of relying on a group of unqualified elders to handle the situation.

  But this also makes it clear that they are more concerned about their reputation than they are about protecting children. That has to change as well.
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  As old as he is, he won't have to hide for long.
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  Listen obey and get vaxed

  by JohnR1975 in

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  the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.

  yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.

  they are not trusted.

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  KerryKing: Trust in the GB is selective

  Good. That's the first step in freeing themselves from the WTS. Once you decide that they cannot always be trusted, you have also determined that they are not led by God or the holy spirit. It's a short leap from there to understand that their lack of divine guidance is a really big issue, since their authority is derived from that.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  JohnR1975: he has no job but makes a short YouTube video every few weeks that seems to be enough for stupid people to keep sending him money.

  I figure the support will continue to bleed away over time. But I am almost impressed at how some people will continue to send him money. There are no excuses left.
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  Blood transfusions

  by lovecrissy in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i can't find a answer to this- what type of transfusions are not accepted-.

  prbc( packed red blood cells).

  ffp- fresh frozen plasma.

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  TonusOH

  Hi lovecrissy,

  I think JW Facts has a good guide on the WTS policy towards blood transfusions.

  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/blood-transfusions.php
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  How is that possible? You're both in your 30s!

  Happy anniversary!
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  The Watchtower's Depiction of 'paradise'..

  by Ron.W. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps we could post the pictures the wt have presented in their literature that depict their version of paradise here for comment/discussion:.

  from: spirits of the dead​—can they help you or harm you?

  do they really exist?.

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  TonusOH

  Not only that. When humanity got together and began to build the tower of Babel, Jehovah expressed concern at their ambition and potential. Fearing that nothing might be out of their reach, he confused their languages and scattered them. Thus, humanity was doomed to centuries of conflict, just as they were showing what they could do when they were united.

  That we have progressed as far as we have under such a devastating handicap is a testament to how awesome we are.