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ukpimo
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Vintage Tape Recordings
by Slidin Fast ini have come across several official reel to reel magnetic tape recordings of material from i think the 1958 international convention at yankee stadium and polo grounds nyc.
the speakers are knorr and franz.
i have no machinery to play these but love them or loathe them, they are history.
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JW internal culture is destroying everything that makes a Jehovah’s Witness
by ukpimo inthe entire internal religious culture of the watchtower organization is harmful for its current members.
the culture seems to traverse ethnic and national barriers.
however, the worst of each culture all around the world appears to have a symbiotic relationship with the religion in an attempt to make the org fanciful in every nation and locality.
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ukpimo
The entire internal religious culture of the Watchtower Organization is harmful for its current members.
The culture seems to traverse ethnic and national barriers. However, the worst of each culture all around the world appears to have a symbiotic relationship with the religion in an attempt to make the Org fanciful in every nation and locality. This is one of the most ingenious of all religions devised, a real estate business in the guise of religion and a former big publishing corporation masquerading as a worldwide religion, Jehovah’s Witnesses are the greatest con men on the earth. Now, Jehovah’s Witnesses are becoming an online religion.
Why Jehovah’s Witnesses cannot see it baffles me. Kingdom Hall maintenance seems to have taken priority over the ministry. How can they not see rhus is now a very secular religion? Letter writing has replaced the house to house ministry in many areas in the UK. How can they not see jws have lost their sense of urgency? A quick search on reddit and scrolling through reviews on Kingdom Halls indicates that letter writing is having more of a negative impact on their ministry than the public witnessing carts ever did. You never see people posting photos of jw carts and complaining about them as much as I have seen with the posts regarding their letters. Many people are annoyed and almost half expect jws to send them hand written letters regularly, something most people on reddit are saying is very weird. Complaints on Kingdom Halls telling jws to stop isn't making any changes because poor old Ida who may not be in this system another 5 years is as obsessed with writing and putting out letters as are young jws posting photos on social media. Letter writing is a stupid zealous obsession. In my day, the over 80s and 90+ publishers went out in the freezing cold for about an hour ministry, crippled with arthritis, amongst other ailments, and they always got home alive. My generation and younger seem to be pathetic victims of their ailments, using letter writing as an excuse to not face real people in everyday life, then they moan when they don't receive replies to their letters. The point is, they should get their arses out there and stop whining. The current laid back culture is killing the ministry. Another aspect or the internal culture is the present aloof state of the congregation elders around Britain. They do not take their sheep seriously. Nothing will ever please them, and they continue to gossip about members not doing what they want despite them not setting the example themselves. I hear in many congregations only 3 or 4 go out in a group each time which is absolutely ridiculous. The zeal has gone. Obedience to the org is a must at all costs. But the point is this, if the culture is changing like this, how long do they expect to carry on in the next 50 years? In that time, I don't expect to see the organization as it is today. It will probably be significantly smaller and die out similar to the Rastafarian movement. I sadly won't even be alive probably in the next 10/15 years to see Watchtower's demise. Like the accounts of many here, my posts will stay as a memoriam for researchers to look back upon when Watchtower finally comes to an end.
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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’
by LongHairGal inthis information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.
(i don’t go on jw dot org).
it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.
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ukpimo
I know many here and even on reddit have said that the 10 year plan was fake, but I do have to say despite no clear plan the org do seem to be resetting themselves to appear more likeable to outsiders.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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ukpimo
Lloyd was no different from any jw elder I have ever known, having his own dark history to cover up whilst garnering love and attention from those he duped. That being said, coming to think of it, he was an ex elder. So that's why he was skilled in his deception.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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ukpimo
I'm not sure if this was ever posted. Despite being an active "apostate" and disfellowshipped from the religion, Lloyd's name was actually on his father's business
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/03734538/officers
Please do not post any address or company information on this website, follow the link. He only resigned in 2022! Well, Lloyd had been a well known "apostate" for 10 years until that year. It seems that he perhaps still helped his elder father in business without his dad being disgraced by having his elder privilege removed. I find this a disgusting example of double standards. Lloyd himself only became an elder around age 30 because his father was an elder. The following website is helpful in stitching the story together.
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My Beliefs After Leaving the Watchtower
by KalebOutWest ini tend to keep my personal beliefs separate from my posts.. i know that is often different from others as their posts as often one and the same with their opinions.
i think that is good.
you get to learn a lot about people that way.
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ukpimo
I'm now beginning to think after careful evaluation that this post is simply a tactic to gain extra sympathy for Jews and potential converts, without undue pressure so that it gives the impression that Jews are far more endearing than other faiths. Now I'm not completely against Jewish culture or faith, but I can sense where this thread is going. Thank you for your time, however I will leave this thread and I hope any honest questioning individual does the same.
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Petra!****Request**Circuit Overseer Training Videos!
by Atlantis inemail request from shelly:.
dear petra, are there any circuit overseer training videos that you know of?
and could you send them over to larchwood?.
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Beth Sarim
When I did my personal research, I realised that Avoid does use incognito members to assist with writing their articles and to obtain confidential documents. The "Miss Usato" is a pseudonym and I believe her first language isn't English. Although it is an excellent resource to obtain the latest information and documentation in JW land, it wouldn't surprise me if they solicit for their website from exjws. I did find that they had a "donate" page, which now shows an error message if you click on it. I reckon they received some negative backlash.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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ukpimo
Lloyd Evans was fake from start to finish. I can understand why he did what he did, but I don't condone it. Long may his legacy rot in the annals of exjw community history!
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Petra!****Request**Circuit Overseer Training Videos!
by Atlantis inemail request from shelly:.
dear petra, are there any circuit overseer training videos that you know of?
and could you send them over to larchwood?.
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ukpimo
Don't bother sending anything to Avoid JW. In my opinion, Avoid is the new Lloyd Evans.
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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’
by LongHairGal inthis information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.
(i don’t go on jw dot org).
it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.
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ukpimo
I only see this as a way to cover their tracks, in case they receive further backlash from the younger generation which exists now, in decades to come when they are old and grey.