Posts by ukpimo

It was the “tipping point” for Rowena Pailing, who quit as the cathedral’s vice-dean and head of safeguarding, ending a nearly 20-year career with the Church of England.

“I couldn't work for an organisation which put its own reputation and the protection of alleged abusers above the protection and care and listening to victims and survivors,” she tells the BBC, speaking publicly for the first time about the case.

Oh how such a comment describes the jw organization! We need more balanced articles like this published exposing the org rather than the unstable and off-putting articles some exjws write for the media. This is more professional and subtle!

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Current UK circuit overseers by area

by ukpimo in

i have been reading through old threads discussing circuit overseers from the past.

i saw a photo of a list from the mid 2000s someone took at london bethel, which was helpful for that time.

i'm extremely interested in compiling a list of current circuit overseers from across the uk, seeing that the circuits had a massive change in recent years.

ukpimo

I have been reading through old threads discussing Circuit Overseers from the past. I saw a photo of a list from the mid 2000s someone took at London Bethel, which was helpful for that time.

I'm extremely interested in compiling a list of current Circuit Overseers from across the UK, seeing that the circuits had a massive change in recent years. Any ideas how we can do this without outting ourselves?

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Will there ever be any new GB members?

by Mikejw in

the last two seem very young.. will there be any further new gb members or will they all die off?.

i still remember when tony morris and a few other joined many were disappointed thinking the current crop would be the last.

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ukpimo

Wow. This means that Sam Herd is heading on for the ripe age of 90!

I was reading Barbara Anderson's account of when an anonymous GB member (likely Ted Jaracz) sent out direction to well known travelling overseers in 1994 to silence abuse victims and threaten them with disfellowshipping.

I looked more closely at the article, and it appears that this was originally written in the early 2000s. The writer made note Barbara stated that as she and her husband were thumbing through files in their colleague's office at WHQ, they found the numerous letters of great upset coming through from CSA victims. One thing she stated was that one of those travelling overseers who loyally followed this directive now serves on the Governing Body. Now, I am wondering if this was either Samuel Herd, David Splane or Stephen Lett as they were all appointed to the GB post 1994 and pre 2005 onwards when the next gen GB members started appearing.

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2024 GB Update #5

by ukpimo in

let's mine for the next gb update!

it isn't yet on the servers, however the code 1112024014 is to be used for august.

it should be out publicly on the borg website tomorrow.

ukpimo

Ignore the previous message. This link will work.

https://www.jw.org/download/?output=html&docid=1112024014&langwritten=E

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2024 GB Update #5

by ukpimo in

let's mine for the next gb update!

it isn't yet on the servers, however the code 1112024014 is to be used for august.

it should be out publicly on the borg website tomorrow.

ukpimo

Let's mine for the next GB update! It isn't yet on the servers, however the code 1112024014 is to be used for August. It should be out publicly on the Borg website tomorrow. Keep checking. Likely it will be available on the servers tomorrow morning UK time.

Links to 2 resolutions of the video:

https://d34ji3l0qn3w2t.cloudfront.net/0ea9ec41-11ee-441c-86d6-2946b93d09c7/1/1112024014_E_cnt_1_r480P.mp4

https://d34ji3l0qn3w2t.cloudfront.net/23843c87-027b-4731-9a5e-a72c39165d87/1/1112024014_E_cnt_1_r720P.mp4

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Who told the first lie?

by nicolaou in

this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

ukpimo

If the Garden of Eden was a myth because a serpent spoke, why are we missing an obvious fact? Eve had the first case of schizophrenia! It's bloody obvious!

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WATCHTOWER OCT '24: HOW TO BE A HAPPY WINDOW CLEANER

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/sbh213gbedo?si=ceeaip451t6i0zjp.

so as they say one picture is as strong as a thousand words and here you have it guys in the latest study edition of the watchtower for october 2024 that has just been posted on their website a middle aged jw window cleaner dreaming of the new system where things will get better.

why does the watchtower need to talk now about jws on minial self employed jobs?

ukpimo

https://youtu.be/sfmAeijj5cM?feature=shared

A naughty song to laugh along to.

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Reddit thread re Oct 2024 WT with picture of window washer - Theme knocking people who Planned

by LongHairGal in

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this thread currently has over 300 comments.. it shows a picture of an older man washing a window looking wistfully… then it talks all about how some may have doubts about not having planned and the situation they are in now that they are older, etc.

it refers to others who did plan and who supposedly have ‘apparent’ financial security.

in my opinion, the whole gist of this article is to make older witnesses feel better who did not pursue a career or plan well for retirement.. it tries to imply that those others who planned only have ‘apparent’ financial security - which is to say they don’t (?).

ukpimo

From my experience within 70+ years of having known the Organization, encouraging specific secular work was never done by the Society. Especially in the 1970s in Britain, window cleaning was a helpful well paying business which was flexible enough to fit around the Society's demanding schedule. You see, as we were a smaller religion in England at the time, we all had mutual connections all over the country and we told them either by letter or telephone or when we visited them about this fantastic and easy business which could help "put God's Kingdom first", some may even have had relatives who emigrated to the US or Australia and shared the same message with them. As you can imagine, some independently minded elders at assemblies and conventions subtly promoted it at the time when the Society definitely was not encouraging jws to pursue a specific lifestyle, only to find work that paid all the bills and helped them to live and which never conflicted with bible principles. Of course, I am presumptuous to assume if the British JWs started the craze, but it seems that for a pre-internet era word soon spread around across to many brothers and gradually many took up window cleaning as well as other cleaning activities (some chose office cleaning).

I did it for a time in the 80s, and I hated it. Some clients were so obnoxious and demanding. Such is the way of the British in some areas with our "stiff upper lip". I went back into accounting as I had done for many years previously and I felt for all those brothers who remained window cleaners until retirement, it was an especially dangerous job in those days, due to the fact this water fed pole system wasn't yet introduced and became a more preferable option some time in the 2010s in the area I lived.

Yes, the picture is sad. Let's not remember however some of these men made the sacrifice because they genuinely believed they were doing it to increase their ministry activities.

I am stunned at the number of Jehovah’s Witness men now who work "full time" as window cleaners, especially now they don't have to report time and if they do as regular pioneers it is a measly 50 hours! It's a doddle now. Call me a grumpy old man, but some of those witnesses who work "full time" as window cleaners earn 10 times more than my state pension, those bastards!

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It's been ten years since congregations surrendered their finances to HQ

by truthseeker in

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anyone have any anecdotal reports of individual congregation finances since the stealth takeover by the wt of their checking accounts?.

are donations up?

can they pay their bills?.

ukpimo

I wonder what more will be surrendered to Watchtower during this great "reset" period?