Posts by Swan

we went out to dinner (my first celebration in over 30 years), my husband gave me a beautiful gift, my kids were great, my sister (who's baptized, but on shaky ground herself) sent me flowers and joined us .

i'm filled with sadness for all the missed years .

Swan

Yes, getting it checked out by the doctor is a very good thing. But also knowing that you are not alone and a lot of other people go through a period of grief too. It becomes a serious depression for many of us. Meds and counseling are the only thing that have helped me.

So you aren't alone. Tell your doctor tomorrow and hang in there. It does get better with time.

Tammy

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Would u let ur jw teenager date a non jw teenager?

by Jade221 in

i am just wondering on where people stand on this topic.

would you let your son or daughter date a non jehovah witness?

i personally think that i would let my teenager.

Swan

Welcome Jade!

I don't see any problem with it. Some of the best people I know are non JWs.

Tammy

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Anyone from Beaverton/Hillsboro Oregon area here?

by lost_light06 in

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just curious.

seems to be a lot of mid-west, east coast and "across the pond" folks.

Swan

I'm a Salemite, but I worked on Nimbus in Beaverton for awhile about 6 years back.

Tammy

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Was there immature behaviour in your KH?

by badboy in

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any takers?

Swan

Like when we were counseled by two control freaks who happened to be elders for sisters not to withhold the marital due from their husbands because it might put undue pressure on them to have sex with children? Or like the time when we were counseled to quit shunning the child molester because he was only publicly reproved and was serving his time with weekends in the county jail?

Or when one of those elders tried to change the Thursday School/Service Meeting to Friday so that we could be more fired up for field service on Saturday; but it was really because he wanted to go to bed earlier on Thursday nights. Or when this same elder sat in on a judicial committee meeting and DFed his own father for alcoholism, and claimed he was mature enough to be impartial.

Or when they both told my brother to get his hair cut when it was barely over the tops of his ears? Or when they put him on restriction when he didn't comply so that he couldn't perform any cong. duties, yet others less mature and with longer hair were given microphone privileges to encourage them.

Or when they talked to my other brother and his future wife about being too close to one another and questioned them about their private behavior just before the wedding, when they had actually stayed chaste during that time. Or when they got into arguments with other elders who tried to stand up to them?

Immature behavior like that? I actually appreciated that immature behavior because I started to see a dark side to the elder arrangement. I began to doubt Jehovah's actual involvement in the process. I learned that any A-hole can be "chosen" to be an elder, but that doesn't make him mature.

Tammy

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Amazing new resource for research--Google US Government Search

by under_believer in

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google has just launched a new service they're calling "google u.s. government search," at .

http://www.google.com/ig/usgov.

this is particularly keen because it allows us to easily limit our searches to the .gov tld.

Swan

This just isn't right. I'm glad the guy won his suit. I might not agree with JWs, but I don't want to see them attacked either. I thought this country had matured since the 1940s. Still some bigots and bullies out there, I guess.

EEOC v. DWW Partner's LLP d/b/a Right HondaNo. CIV 03-067 PHX VAM (D. Ariz. April 18, 2003)

The Phoenix District Office alleged in this Title VII lawsuit that defendant, an owner/operator of two car dealerships, subjected charging party, a car salesman who is a Jehovah's Witness, to a hostile working environment because of his religious beliefs. As a Jehovah's Witness, charging party does not salute the U.S. flag, say the pledge of allegiance or swear his allegiance to the U.S. or the state of Arizona. Because of his religious beliefs, charging party was regularly harassed by managers and co-workers throughout his five months of employment. The harassment culminated in a verbal and physical assault by two managers which occurred after the men objected to the way charging party brought down the U.S. flag from the dealership's flagpole. After threatening charging party with termination and verbally harassing him because of his religious practices relating to the U.S. flag, two managers grabbed him and one of them placed him into a headlock while the other punched him repeatedly in the shoulders and ribs with his fists. After the assault, charging party quit his job because he feared for his safety. Defendant initially fired the managers involved in the assault but later rehired at least one of them.

The case was resolved through a consent decree which provides for payment of $112,500 to charging party, representing $20,000 in back pay, $42,500 in emotional distress damages, and $50,000 in compensation for physical injuries. Defendant is enjoined from harassing or terminating any employees due to their religious beliefs and from retaliating against individuals who oppose unlawful employment practices. The company will conduct training seminars relating to religious harassment at which defendant's president will discuss with employees the importance of maintaining a working environment free of unlawful conduct. Defendant's president will also send charging party a letter, approved by the Commission, apologizing for the unlawful conduct alleged in the lawsuit.

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Amazing new resource for research--Google US Government Search

by under_believer in

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friends

google has just launched a new service they're calling "google u.s. government search," at .

http://www.google.com/ig/usgov.

this is particularly keen because it allows us to easily limit our searches to the .gov tld.

Swan

What I would like to know is why that ~~district~~ circuit overseer gave the Eisenhower Library the Abilene congregation's records (presumably of the Eisenhower family) when we get squat from them when we ask for our records?

Tammy Edited to correct the rank of CO McIntyre.

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Will my relationship survive if we are unevenly yoked.

by sjohnson333 in

i am studying the truth and i am very pleased with the jehovah's witness congregation.

i am interested in becoming a follower.

i have a true desire to serve jehovah.

Swan

Welcome SJ ohnson333 !

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What Are Effective Ways To Get Rid of The Witnesses?

by minimus in

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any ideas?

?

Swan

Hang a I LOVE RAY FRANZ sign on your door. This should effectively get rid of 99% of them.

Actually, I have a tactic similar to this, but haven't yet had a good opportunity to use it. It depends on the individual at the door. If they seem nice, I am very polite in return but then inform them that I DAed about 12 years ago and to please put me on their do not call list.

If they aren't so nice, I have a backup plan. I keep a my Crisis of Conscience near the front door. I'll say, "Oh, you're using your book? Let me get mine!"

Tammy