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  Things JWs don't say

  by WildTurkey in

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  lets post somethings as a dub you dont say:.

  luck, you dont say party, its a get together.

  you dont go to church, its a hall

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  Swan

  "Aren't these comfortable bleachers?"

  "Please pass the blood pudding."

  "That Tony Soprano sure would make a fine elder."

  "Too bad about John Denver. He was such a nice man."

  "Sorry, I can't talk right now, I'm in a hurry to get to the contribution box before the line gets too long."

  "Hi. This is a child molester and I'm accompanying him today. He has a special message just for you."

  "Wow, I think the lights on the house look even better than last Christmas."

  "Were looking for something to spice up our marriage."

  "Tinky Winky is my favorite teletubby."

  "Brothers and sisters, please come to the pews and find your seats."

  "I had sex with Monica Lewinsky."

  "The circuit overseer's coming that week? Darn, I'll just have to cancel our trip to Hawaii."

  "Darn. The keynote address is over already. I could have listened to that brother read that thing for another hour or two."

  "Yes, brother, I did that. Sorry, you'll have to excuse me. I had the fruit bag every day of this assembly."

  "I hear RuPaul is going to get baptized at this assembly."

  Tammy
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  IF YOU COULD HAVE JW'S OUTLAWED, WOULD YOU?

  by minimus in

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  since so many are vehemently opposed to jehovah's witnesses, if it was in your power, would you simply outlaw the witnesses?

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  Countries have already done this and failed! They just go underground and sometimes they actually increase their numbers while under ban.

  It is better to keep them legal, and then attack them through the courts, attack them in the media with issues people care about (like child abuse), and keep organizing their opposition (us) on the Internet. Their numbers are declining in many developed countries where Internet access is readily available. They appear to be having financial problems as well. The information age seems to be their greatest threat.

  Tammy
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  The Pot Calling the Kettle Black

  by IslandWoman in

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  i wonder sometimes if to outsiders who visit this and other xjw discussion boards it seems as if xjws never "bought the farm" and that's why they look down on those who did.

  there is much ridicule of the rank and file here, why?

  if we placed literature, conducted a bible study, brought a bible study to the point of baptism, gave talks, commented at the watchtower study, volunteered,

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  I actually think they are victims too. They all are, even the elders and GB. Does that excuse their behavior? NO! But it does explain it.

  I carried around a lot of anger at all of them for so long. Now if one called at my door I would invite them in, ask them some questions, and then let them know that there are resources for them. If they refused my help, okay. But I might be able to plant one more seed of doubt just as others planted that seed of doubt in me many years ago. I don't harbor any animosity for them any more. They can be aggravating, but they truly are an object of pity.

  Tammy
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  Sisters going after minor brothers

  by nowaytess in

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  i know when it comes to pedophiles we are young girls or teenage girls who have been molested by men.. i know of 2 cases where a teenage boy is being seduced by an older woman in the congregation.. .

  i know of one when i was a jw in my congregation.

  she was 24 and he was 15 1/2 - 16 when they meet.

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  Dear Tess,

  I can see your point of view, but I don't share it. To reject proven medical therapies in favor of putting honey in your child's eyes, which hasn't been proven in any study, is quackery, IMO. To not inoculate your child against serious diseases because it may cause them to adopt loose morals is ludicrous. To avoid aluminum because it is the Devil's metal is superstitious mumbo jumbo.

  If they ever come out with any such studies or research, I would accept it, but I still wouldn't do it because there are many less painful remedies available. I am sure there are alternative therapies that have some merit, but when administered, by a dysfunctional parent to a child, along with the countless other quack medicines, it is really difficult to differentiate what is a good remedy and what is just BS!

  I actually believe the Chinese herbs were doing some good for me healthwise (but nothing for my depression). They tasted like sewer water, but I think they were really good for me. I have no scientific study to back this up, so don't anybody run out to Chinatown just on my say so. It's totally anecdotal and individual to me. It may not work for you. That's the point. My mother would listen to brother so and so because he was 83 and still pioneering and he drank this potion every day. So guess what? We had to drink that crap every day too. So unfortunately, even though the herbs were working for me, it wasn't long before my mother switched to some other fad remedy and that was that.

  So what I am saying here is some of it is valid and some of it is quackery. Either way, it can become abusive, even if some people get relief from this or that therapy. And after a whole childhood of it, I'm sick of all of it.

  If those remedies work for you, great! Just don't let them rule your life and the life of your kids. Keep it in perspective and balanced.

  Thanks and good health to you!

  Tammy
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  WT PR Statement - silentlambs march

  by silentlambs in

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  this was read and given to all media at the march.

  the outrage is to great to express, who are these people?

  silentlambs .

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  If an accusation of child molestation is made against a member of a congregation, the elders immediately work to assure the safety of the victim and of other children.

  Yes, the two elders that are present when they make the victim confront their abuser are not trained in the very latest martial arts, have no education as social workers, and have no experience at law enforcement. But don't fear, they can assure the safety of the victim!

  Yeah, right!

  Tammy
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  Elders at my door

  by Disposable Hero in

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  just had 2 elders at my door coming to check up on me.

  they asked how i was doing and usual chit chat.

  i asked them about if they had seen dateline and about the child abuse problem.

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  Ask them if there was new light that you missed due to being away that would explain the news articles you saw from about a year ago about the Watchtower's involvement with the United Nations? Ask them if this makes it okay now to help out the poor kids by donating to Unicef?

  Tammy
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  Sisters going after minor brothers

  by nowaytess in

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  i know when it comes to pedophiles we are young girls or teenage girls who have been molested by men.. i know of 2 cases where a teenage boy is being seduced by an older woman in the congregation.. .

  i know of one when i was a jw in my congregation.

  she was 24 and he was 15 1/2 - 16 when they meet.

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  Dear Six,

  You wrote:

  Tammy, I don't know the story or reasoning behind it, but at the turn of the century, I believe it was quite common to put little boys in dresses for photographs. This might have been a throwback to that.

  Could be, except she also used earrings, hats, lipstick, and nail polish too!

  Tammy
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  Sisters going after minor brothers

  by nowaytess in

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  i know when it comes to pedophiles we are young girls or teenage girls who have been molested by men.. i know of 2 cases where a teenage boy is being seduced by an older woman in the congregation.. .

  i know of one when i was a jw in my congregation.

  she was 24 and he was 15 1/2 - 16 when they meet.

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  Dear Lew,

  Tammy, seeing now the how and why of it, it sounds very abusive and somewhat neglectful to me. Of course, 30 years ago, they didn't know as much about depression as they do today, but it sounds like your "symptoms" might have been due to what sounds pretty abusive to me.

  I'm so sorry your Mom did you like that. Sorrier even that she depended more on the quackery of the Watchtower and Awake than she did common sense.

  Hang in there and be happy you are away from that today.

  I am, but strangely I still miss her. As an adult I just told her no I didn't want to take this pill or that pill. It bothered her when I started making my own decisions that were based on what was best for me. I can see that a lot of this phobia of doctors came from her own dysfunctional childhood (alcoholic parents). I think my Mom loved me, but she just didn't know where to draw the line and rely on her own common sense rather than the words of the latest quack doctor.

  Tammy
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  BLACKMAIL question

  by lisaBObeesa in

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  i have been having thoughts.

  (i know, i was shocked, too, heheheheheheh) please give me some input, because this keeps going around in my crazy little head .

  you want to leave the jws, but you are told you are free to leave, but you will be announced as da and you will loose all contact with your family, because they will believe you have done something very very bad.

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  Swan

  Technically it isn't blackmail, it's extortion.

  Tammy
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  DO YOU SWEAR MORE THAN BEFORE???

  by minimus in

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  one of my best friends, an ex-elder, swears alot.

  years ago i never would have sworn.

  but they say bad assocaiation spoils useful habits, so what the -----.

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  Not at work. Everywhere else I'm on my own time.

  Tammy