Posts by KerryKing

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New light isn't that new outside the USA?

by KerryKing in

all this recent new light etc has everyone talking but none of it is that unusual here in ireland.

i've been df'd for 15 years, my parents started talking to me again when i had my first child nearly 13 years ago now.

last year my sister in law started talking to me again also, at the one meeting i attended last year quite a few people chatted to me and said hello.. i'm just wondering if all this is only a big deal in the usa or is this neck of the woods just particularly rebellious anyway?

KerryKing

When I lived in Spain for a few years, I remember meeting American JW tourists who couldn't believe that sisters were allowed to wear spaghetti strap tops haha. That was in 40°C+

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New light isn't that new outside the USA?

by KerryKing in

all this recent new light etc has everyone talking but none of it is that unusual here in ireland.

i've been df'd for 15 years, my parents started talking to me again when i had my first child nearly 13 years ago now.

last year my sister in law started talking to me again also, at the one meeting i attended last year quite a few people chatted to me and said hello.. i'm just wondering if all this is only a big deal in the usa or is this neck of the woods just particularly rebellious anyway?

KerryKing

All this recent new light etc has everyone talking but none of it is that unusual here in Ireland. I've been df'd for 15 years, my parents started talking to me again when I had my first child nearly 13 years ago now. Last year my sister in law started talking to me again also, at the one meeting I attended last year quite a few people chatted to me and said hello.

I'm just wondering if all this is only a big deal in the USA or is this neck of the woods just particularly rebellious anyway? 15 years ago we had elders with full beards in the cong, one elder's wife wore trousers when she wanted to, it did send tongues wagging but that's all. Elders didn't always wear full suit on platform, mismatched was also ok. Either ties or bow ties were fine on platform. Hardly any man wore full suit going in the ministry, wrong climate for that carry on.

Df'd children were never kicked out of their home and witnesses didn't necessarily stop visiting said home because of a df'd family member living there.

During COVID quite a few elders didn't take the Vax, they weren't removed and are still there now.

Any other countries as relaxed as Ireland??

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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan

by redsetter2 in

i am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.

the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.

i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.

KerryKing

Does anyone happen to have a list of the 340 religions the UN claims to have on its one world religion initiative?

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What has changed since January 2009?

by KerryKing in

hi, i was df'd in jan 09. have not been in touch much with the jws apart from a few memorials i went to.. what with all the online presence they have nowadays, it just feels like a totally different religion.

i have seen them with their tablets and phones at the hall, hardly any physical bibles or books at all, makes me think how ai (or the borg) could so easily change words and phrasing in the bible to suit them without making a big deal of it, like 'a new light' talk or wt article.

doctrinally has much changed since 2009?.

KerryKing

Thanks for those links, very interesting timing indeed after the Australian Royal Commission!

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What has changed since January 2009?

by KerryKing in

hi, i was df'd in jan 09. have not been in touch much with the jws apart from a few memorials i went to.. what with all the online presence they have nowadays, it just feels like a totally different religion.

i have seen them with their tablets and phones at the hall, hardly any physical bibles or books at all, makes me think how ai (or the borg) could so easily change words and phrasing in the bible to suit them without making a big deal of it, like 'a new light' talk or wt article.

doctrinally has much changed since 2009?.

KerryKing

So there was a coup in 2012 where 8 old men took the reins from the other 143992? 😅

That's quite funny actually, and no one questioned that?!!

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What has changed since January 2009?

by KerryKing in

hi, i was df'd in jan 09. have not been in touch much with the jws apart from a few memorials i went to.. what with all the online presence they have nowadays, it just feels like a totally different religion.

i have seen them with their tablets and phones at the hall, hardly any physical bibles or books at all, makes me think how ai (or the borg) could so easily change words and phrasing in the bible to suit them without making a big deal of it, like 'a new light' talk or wt article.

doctrinally has much changed since 2009?.

KerryKing

Hi, I was df'd in Jan 09. Have not been in touch much with the JWs apart from a few memorials I went to.

What with all the online presence they have nowadays, it just feels like a totally different religion. I have seen them with their tablets and phones at the hall, hardly any physical Bibles or books at all, makes me think how AI (or the Borg) could so easily change words and phrasing in the Bible to suit them without making a big deal of it, like 'a new light' talk or WT article.

Doctrinally has much changed since 2009?

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Sudanese JWs flee for their lives

by raymond frantz in

https://www.jwupdates.com/post/u-n-infomercial-backfires.

the following appeared on jw news section earlier on in january:.

on december 15, 2023, an ongoing conflict between two armed factions in sudan’s capital, khartoum, spread to the country’s second-largest city, wad madani.

KerryKing

WT rejoined the UN? Where could I find that online please?

Would love to have proof for family still in the Org.

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The ORG'S "foundation" name............

by BoogerMan in

.........jehovah.. the bible's foundation name - (1 corinthians 3:11) "for no one can lay any other foundation than what is laid, which is jesus christ.".

the org's chosen name for christians - "jehovah's witnesses.".

jehovah's chosen name for christians - acts 11:26 - "...the disciples were by divine providence called christians.".

KerryKing

Thank you boogerman for that comprehensive list of verses, I looked up and read the first list and what struck me is that several scriptures speak of hearing and seeing what they witness about. Obviously those reading the apostle's letters had been alive when Jesus was on earth, they were literal eye witnesses.

None of us can claim to be eye witnesses of Jesus, so are we witnesses at all? Can we even claim to be witnesses of prophecies, what prophecies if so? Reading an old book doesn't make us very reliable witnesses does it? At least not the kind that would be listened to in a court of law.

I feel like there is something I should be able to see here but I can't, it's too vague. Maybe someone else can see it clearly?

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The New Busy Work

by NotFormer in

for a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door.

that avenue is drying up.

and policy is changing.. the wt needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.. the wt fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio.

KerryKing

Maybe they will actually begin to encourage publishers to look after the elderly, the widows and fatherless children, that should keep them busy!

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I have some questions about the Org.!

by KerryKing in

are any or all of the gb from jewish descent?.

why are they so fascinated with following ancient jewish 'principles' ?.

isa 43:10, 44:8 ' you are my witnesses ' which they based their religious identity on, jehovah's witnesses, yet those verses address the jews, not christians, which they profess to be.. jesus said in ac 1:8 'you will be witnesses of me ', .

KerryKing

Thank you everyone, very helpful explanations.

I have been df for 15 years, about to get married to my partner of 13 years, and my family are hoping I will apply to be reinstated. For years I thought I would want to return, but the more I read the Bible, and communicate on this forum and on Beroean Pickets, the stronger the feeling is growing that there is something very different about the current JW religion, it seems quite sinister to me but I can't put my finger on exactly what it is.

I really enjoy the discussions on here, so thank you to all, you're clarifying a lot of past murky teachings and questions for me.