mdb
Maybe I missed something, but who said Y was Satan? The question still stands, who is Y?
Seems to me Y is the one requiring the sacrifice of a perfect man.
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Why did Jesus have to die?
by ghostbuster ini disassociated myself from jws about 20 years ago so i'm a bit rusty on christian teaching.
the intersting thing though is i hadn't completely disassociated my mind from their teachings and it's only been recently that i've had true independent thought.
it's scary if you think about it.
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Famous JW's (or exJW)..an almost complete listing.
by badwillie infamous jehovah's witnesses
dwight d. eisenhower - u.s. president (raised jw) .
venus and serena williams - world chamption/olympic gold medalist tennis players .
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Someone mentioned Van Morrison. One time I was driving late at night listening to one of those stations that plays obscure album tracks and they played this song. I could tell it was Van Morrison so I did a little research and discovered this song.
Kingdom Hall
So glad to see you
So glad you're here
Come here beside me now
We can clear inhibition away
All inhibitions
Throw them away
And when we dance like this
Like we've never been dancin' before
Chorus:
Oh, they were swingin'
Down at Kingdom Hall
Oh, bells were ringin'
Down at the Kingdom Hall
A choir was singin'
Down at the Kingdom Hall
Hey, liley, liley, liley
Hey, liley, liley, low
Do do do do do do, do
Do do do do do do
Do do do do do do, do
Do do do do do do
Good body music
Brings you right here
Free flowin' motion now
When we're shakin' it out on the floor
Good rockin' music
Down in your shoes
And when we dance like this
Like we've never been dancin' before
Repeat Chorus
Down at the Kingdom Hall
They were havin' a party
They were havin' a ball
Bells were ringing out
And the choir was singin'
Hey, liley, liley, liley
Hey, liley, liley, low
Do do, do do, do do, do do
Sugar was there
Did you see Sugar
Down at the Kingdom Hall
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Famous JW's (or exJW)..an almost complete listing.
by badwillie infamous jehovah's witnesses
dwight d. eisenhower - u.s. president (raised jw) .
venus and serena williams - world chamption/olympic gold medalist tennis players .
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startingover
Don't forget Megadeth frontman Dave Mustaine.
Check out this interview and what he says about the private school. I read somewhere else it was a JW private school. Maybe someone on the board knows if one existed in San Diego area at that time.
http://megadeth.rockmetal.art.pl/interviews_hitparader1987.html
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Why did Jesus have to die?
by ghostbuster ini disassociated myself from jws about 20 years ago so i'm a bit rusty on christian teaching.
the intersting thing though is i hadn't completely disassociated my mind from their teachings and it's only been recently that i've had true independent thought.
it's scary if you think about it.
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mdb,
By God coming to be the sacrifice required to bring man to himself,
So my question is, who is requiring it?
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To those who need no purpose in life
by gumby inafter reading the comments from many on the thread "is there a purpose in life" by itsjustme , posted a couple of days ago i am confussed.. i cannot understand how anyone can be content and not believe life has a purpose.. to not be compelled to wonder how all the design around us is just here because who knows why ......totally baffles me.. at this point in my life believe in a creator but have so many unanswered questions.
things do not make sense in the bible.. if i were to come to believe that the bible were a fairytale of myths...i would feel as stupid as i did when finding out the borg was a crock.. i also would be emotionally devastated.. here are some samples of your comments about lifes purpose.
we may have been put here by someone, or we may not have.
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startingover
Gumby,
I only read the first part of the thread, but considering what you posted, have your viewpoints changed since then?
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Self Abuse
by startingover insomething occurred to me while i was reading the promiscuous sex thread.
the wt always refers to masturbation as self abuse.
i googled it and came up with many sites that linked it to cutting oneself, but only a couple that linked those words to masturbation, one being a site about sda prophetess ellen white, and the other some religious site.. of course if you type in self pleasure then you get the masturbation links.
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He moved to a another town and I didn't see him that much after he told that story, only at assemblies, etc, so I don't think he ever did find out. If I ever see him again I am going to tell him.
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Self Abuse
by startingover insomething occurred to me while i was reading the promiscuous sex thread.
the wt always refers to masturbation as self abuse.
i googled it and came up with many sites that linked it to cutting oneself, but only a couple that linked those words to masturbation, one being a site about sda prophetess ellen white, and the other some religious site.. of course if you type in self pleasure then you get the masturbation links.
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This thread has developed into so much more than I ever expected. Thanks everyone for being so open.
Speaking of open, I had a JW friend in the days that always talked a bit too much. One time he told me that his mother in law caught him doing the act. I really couldn't believe he told me because I am certain if that happened to me I would keep it to myself. Talking to another friend later I discovered that he was told the same story.
After that we started calling him Mr. M behind his back.
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WTS Reason for Not Missing Meetings?
by ICBehindtheCurtain inthis is regarding the january watchtower article that is on another thread, which is about avoiding missing meetings for work, i posted this under that thread but thought i might begin a new topic to get your views on this:
it's really enfuriating, that they keep putting out this bs, i know firsthand of many r&f that either quit jobs or did not accept jobs that would compromise meeting attendance all the while their families were in need, the brainwashed mentality was "if we put jehovah first wts first, jehovah will provide", yeah right, as someone else mentioned what about when the car breaks down, or a child gets sick, etc?
then they are pretty much up the creak without a paddle.
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startingover
One of my favorite sayings is:
"Money doesn't buy happiness but it buys alot more than poverty."
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*Serious Question* ...Do you ever HATE yourself by times?
by Legolas in.
if you do, how does one shut off that feeling?.......
anyone got any suggestions?
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I too deal with this. I think it may be a genetic thing or maybe something passed on through association with parents that have no self esteem. But anyway, I have something I use to help alleviate the problem.
If you are in a group of people, just pretend they are locking the door right now and you can switch yourself with anyone in the room. It doesn;t get rid of the feelings completely, but it sure makes you feel like you have a lot of company.
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My Friend's JW Brother Died-------- To Go To KH Funeral Or Not???
by minimus ini've been grappling with going to my very good friend's brother's funeral in a nearby hall where everyone knows me.
if i go to the service it is only to show respect to my friend and the relatives (some are jws, some not).
my friend said that if i didn't go, he would understand but i'm torn.
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I just faced roughly the same situation you have here. I went and I'm glad I did. I stuck out with my the hair on my face, but I wasn't treated badly by any of the several hundred people, many of whom I know well.
I can tell you this, after hearing the talk, it will make you so happy you are not a part of that anymore. I caught myself smerking a couple of times when I heard the words "guaranted" and "certainty" flowing freely when talking about the resurrection.