Posts by Tiktaalik

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At what point do the individuals in the ORG need to take responsibility for their actions?

by vajeni82 in

so, i'm sitting here, being pissed about my family.

both of my parents and my only sister are jws.

i haven't had a relationship with them since they i left in 2002.

Tiktaalik

I think each individual witness is totally responsible for their actions. The "I was only following orders" excuse holds no moral, ethical (or legal?) value in any circumstance.

I hold my family totally responsible. They have chosen to completely shun me, to treat me as if do not exist, and I'm not even disfellowshipped. I have not had any contact with my sisters for 15 years. I tried so many times to reach out to them but I was rebuffed at every turn. A few years ago I just ruled a line under it and moved on.

I blame them for their intectual timidity and their lack of personal integrity. How they could treat a close family member like that is reprehensible. They may have been instructed to do this by the wts but they chose to personally enforce it.

I personally do not give a shit about them now. They are flawed human beings and deserve derision.

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Once again, WTS reminds you that you are a bleeping idiot

by LostGeneration in

gems from the latest km on how to behave at the 2013 dcs..... .

if possible, care for restroom needs before the start of the session.

turn off your cell phone so that you will not be distracted by calls or texts or be tempted to text others during the program.

Tiktaalik

I think the wts is taking this whole "we are your mother" thing way too far.

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RipV Winkles - Word Phrases NOT TO BE Confused With Similar Words Phrases

by rip van winkle in

ripv winkles - word phrases not to be confused with similar words phrases.

~~~ or what i didnt know until i dipped my toe in a jw discussion pool~~~ .

ad hominem- appealing to peoples emotions and beliefs rather than logic or reason.

Tiktaalik

They're thongs here in Australia. Footwear I mean. Tshirt, shorts and thongs and you're set for a big night out on the town.

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Welsh secretary criticised for speaking against gay couples raising children

by Scott77 in

welsh secretary criticised for speaking against gay couples raising childrentory mp david jones says same-sex couples cannot provide 'warm and safe environment for the upbringing of children'.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/feb/15/gay-couples-children-welsh-secretaryi think, this troubling and uncalled for.

but how about straight couples?

Tiktaalik

Thanks for the big old bucket of anti-gay stereotypes, YY2. I like your well reasoned arguments.

Now when we analyse what you say, how much of your rant is your own homophobic opinion as opposed to well thought out reasoning backed up by research?

Your frothy display of ignorant nonsense just serves to publicly demonstrate that you are nothing more than a narrow-minded bigot.

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Lars: Can we examine your Messiah qualifications ?

by mP in

hi lars,.

if you want to claim your the messiah, thats fine but first we must examine the facts and ask a few basic questions.

i am of course accepting your word as honest.. i think everybody is well aware that the messiah will come thru david.

Tiktaalik

I believe that Lars is the messiah. Smite the unbelievers Lars.

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Modern Electronoics and Video Recordings of Private Judicial Meeting(Kangaroo Courts) On YouTube

by frankiespeakin in

jw
friends

with all this low price recording equipment miniaturization availible, and the world wide broadcasting utube, we should see a flood of videos showing what goes on durring these special meetings with people who are finding out the truth about the so called "truth".. and while i'm not a legal eagle i would think that some savy apostate may wins some lawsuits with this material or lawyer for that matter finding an interesting case on the net.

well i can only hope on that one because i don't know and haven't explored the idea much.. i'm seeing this already on you tube and think it serves a good purpose to show these kangaroo courts thus bringing into the open view of the public what goes on in a governing body styled judicial committee and show just how nuts these sickos are.. more videos also puts the governing body on alert to tread carefully and to dot thier i's and cross their t's because big brother is watching..

Tiktaalik

Just download the SpyKit app for your iPhone. It contains (among other goodies) a voice activated recorder. It has a stealth mode so your iiPhone just has its normal home screen showing.

Of course it's probably not legal to record a conversation without the consent of all parties. It's not here in Australia anyhow.

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607 - What is it all about?

by leaving_quietly in

some of you here have a firm belief that 607 was not the fall of jerusalem, contrary to the wt beliefs that it was.

but, why is it important?

frankly, i just don't get it.

Tiktaalik

That's a great summary Londo.

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Whacky comments! What the craziest comment you've ever heard?

by toweragent in

jw
friends

last week a sister in my new hall made the following comment,.

"a brother once told me that it is better to be wrong with the organization, than to be right and be on your own without the organization.".

wow.

Tiktaalik

During a public talk an elder said that the reason you get sunburnt quicker in the mountains is because you are closer to the sun.

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New Pope will be named Peter

by Monsieur in

i remember reading somewhere in regards to a a 'prophet' of sorts who had predicted all the popes that have been chosen.. his 'prophecy' stated that the next pope (since benedict has resigned) would be the last before the 'end' would come.

his name would be pope peter.. let's see what happens.

we are suppose to know who the next pope will be before easter..

Tiktaalik

Pope Peter File...

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What's wrong with the way we interpret prophecy?

by EdenOne in

i've posted this somewhere else, but i think it's worth some discussion here as well.

the original thread revolves around the interpretation of the time for the great tribulation to occurr.

i've pointed out if the problems we ran into in the past and present about interpreting prophecies are troubled by the false premise that we are living in the "last days".. .

Tiktaalik

Eden this is so weird. You believe that Armageddon is real??

>> The men who produced these predictions all thought that the "end of times" would come during their lifetime . This is the key. This is the stumbling block.

No actually the stumbling block is believing that god is gonna destroy the world. You write of the history of Millerism and deride those who have set dates for the end of the world. But you still think the end is coming but weasel out by not saying when. In essence you are exactly the same as those date-setters you have just exposed, but just not as bold.

>> If the Armageddon will happen soon or even during our lifetime, that's great. If "millions now living may never die" will actually become a reality and we live to experience it all, then it will be a wonderful thing to experience.

So you look forward to deaths of billions and the end of life on earth? Yeah "that's great" alright. One of the reasons I left the JWs was because of their gloating attitude to Armageddon. How could it healthy to rejoice in the violent deaths of so many innocent people? And here you are doing exactly that.

This Armageddon fixation is a dangerous thing. You titled your thread "What's wrong with the way we interpret prophecy?". You outline all the past failures. Then you tell us where they all went wrong. Then you proceed to outline the 'correct' way to interpret prophecy. You are just another one in a long line of crazy people who feel the need to preach and sermonise about the end of the world.