I appreciate that Joel.
I noticed that when Bill said that tweedldee and dum were "little men". I thought that was self-aggrandizing. I mean, the Christian way would be to humble onself to be the "little man" even when you don't understand or agree with another's position.
I think, though, after reading this LOOOOONG thread, that everybody's views and goals here are NOT THAT FAR apart, despite the rhetoric.