Posts by Sunspot

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My last best Christmas.

by purplesofa in

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christmas was huge in my house growing up.

we all were catholic.

it was a huge family tradition.

Sunspot

I am so sorry for taking a beautiful family tradition away from my family. It served absolutely no purpose whatsoever. I don't think I can ever forgive the Society for their part in making that happen

I can SO relate to this. When I was "studying" I went to my parents home before Christmas that year, and told them I would not be celebrating it with them this year (or ever again)....it was also the week of my father's birthday (Dec 17) so I was fighting two battles for my new WTS beliefs.....my father was a very proud and stubborn Irishman that did not like things NOT to go HIS way....

and he went ballistic that evening, blustering, turning red and spittle---the whole nine yards. I left and went back home. I had "made my stand" for the trooth that night....and things were never the same again. My parents disowned me when I actually got baptized. My kids suffered because of MY foolishness. *I* suffered because of my foolishness.

You're RIGHT! It served absolutely NO purpose! We never "pleased" God with this decision. We sure didn't please our families....and we didn't please ourselves for any selfish gain.

The BEST thing we can do NOW---is to tell everyone and anyone what a fraud this hideous cult is once it has them in it's grips....and to RUN as fast and as far away from anything Watchtower as they possibly CAN!

hugs,

Annie

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You're not going to believe this!

by coffee_black in

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this article is about a jw who has a face eating tumor.

the pictures are beyond description.

he hasn't had surgery because of the blood thing, but there may be hope in a new procedure.. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/12/03/wface103.xml.

Sunspot

How terribly sad that he has had to endure this life of misery all for his "Mother's faith" as the article brought out. (And SHE has passed away) I feel so sorry for him!

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Sometimes expressing your sorry takes time

by purplesofa in

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it does not mean that you are not sorry, probably immediately, .

it might take time to figure out what you are really sorry about, .

maybe the feelings come immediately and then the mind catches up.

Sunspot

(((((Purps)))))

Oh Sweetie! I don't know what exactly you are referring to, but I DO know I have goofed up royally on many occasions! I ALSO know that you are a very caring and compassionate lady that is loved by MANY!

love & hugs,

Annie

15

HOW SHOULD I PROCEED WITH THIS???

by Mary in

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i received this email on friday from someone i know: .

i just got a call from the brother of the woman, *******, who is contemplating joining the jw group.

he told me that he had spoken to his sister about someone who had been a part of the group (i had told him about you), and, she said that she would be interested in talking to you.. .

Sunspot

I think I'd begin with what Jesus said.....concerning 1)wolves in sheeps clothing and 2)the declaration that many imposters will come in his name, 3) the idea that jesus will be seen by ALL when he comes back and 4) that the WTS claims he came back invisibly and chose THEM as his faves, etc.....and then bring out ALL that contradicts what the WTS teaches.

The simple and down-to-earth approach is hard to get away from no matter WHO is telling her this.....demonic anti-JWs included . You will do just FINE!

hugs,

Annie

25

Flooding Imminent

by bebu in

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well, our area is getting flooded.

they're calling for boats to rescue the home-bound.

they're closing the local freeway, too!

Sunspot

Sorry to see that you are in the midst of this! I was thinking the same thing about the LACK of water in one place and such an over-abundance of it in another.

I sure hope it slows down and subsides VERY soon for you both, Bem and Mulan!

hugs,

Annie

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The Borg is Hounding Me Now !

by Maddie in

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i knew it was going to start soon.

the hounding by the borg is in full throttle now.

i have been experiencing the lull before the storm but it seems to be over and the hurricane is looming overhead.

Sunspot

Dear (((((Maddie)))))....

Isn't it WONDERFUL to feel all this LOVE coming frm your spiritual leaders! (Full sarcasm ON)

I am inclined to lean towards what Jgnat offered, providing that your hubby can and will stand up and let his feelings be what they are. You can always rest for the moment knowing that they will see HIM as the "heavy" and hopefully, for the time being, get off YOUR case. It will buy you more time to figure out just how YOU wish to proceed with all this.

They are holding your family relationship over your head, and have done the same with each of us facing this situation. I refused to meet with them too...I saw no NEED to. They had LOST their power over me many months before....they just weren't aware of it then.

My heart goes out to you....the WTS is SO unfair.

hugs,

Annie

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CHRISTMAS PRESENTS

by Dansk in

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do you find it difficult to know what to get for your beloved for christmas?

(assuming you celebrate it!)..

my wife says to me "don't get me anything, i'd rather we saved the money to get away next year.".

Sunspot

Gift vouchers suck as presents!

I SO disagree with this!

I love them, because I spend so much time and thought getting exactly what I want, the right color, size, personal style, etc, and let someone else pay for it, LOL! Before he retired, I always get hubby one from Dunkin Donuts, so he could grab a coffee and doughnut when he was on break....I still get them for when he is in town for one reason or another. *I* like ones from dept stores or craft stores!

These are especially great for kids and teens that are so fussy and picky on their stuff, or when you don't really have a CLUE who they like for recording artists!

hugs,

Annie

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When did the "birthday" ban start?

by Doug Mason in

when did the ban on "birthday" celebrations begin?

on 5 november 1944, gustaw baumert, a member of the international bible students association, prisoner 81994 at auschwitz wrote a letter to his family.

the following is a translation of part of his letter: .

Sunspot

The celebration of birthday anniversaries centers the mind on the creature and exalts the creature, giving him and his birth undue importance. Romans 1:25 (NW) warns of those who "venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the One who created". Birthday celebrations could tend to take on this objectionable quality.

What clever wordmasters the WTS writers are when it comes to giving out their opinions and making JWs feel that these opinions are now required from GOD!

Correct me if I am wrong here....but I cannot think of anyone I ever knew....whose birthday was "sacred service" or that really veberates one ABOVE the creator! What nonsense! The fact that EVERY PERSON on the earth HAS a day they call their birthday....gives everyone his own date and does not "take away" this time from anyone else! We all have equal time with this!

Yeah..birthday celebrations COULD take on an "objectionable quality", but it doesn't mean that they automatically DO!

The WTS, as usual, is stretching things to promote whatever it is they are trying to tear down, and are MASTERS at "going ahead of the scriptures" while insisting that their OPINIONS are worthy, and must be obeyed without question!

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Anointed looking a bit younger - Feb 15th WT

by The Scotsman in

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been a wee while since i have been here, holidays and stuff.. anyway, i received the new feb 15th wt last night, the one with the generation change.

they have inserted an image that is meant to represent the anointed class, it is not like the usual ones.

generally these pics would have them with gray hair looking very old, but this image "in my opinion" seems to show them a bit younger.

Sunspot

They seem to have softened their stance on how extraordinarily evil this entire world and everyone IN IT (but them) is.

After all those years and pitiful false projections on the many dates the WTS expected the "End" would be here....it now seems as though they are finally admitting that they don't have a CLUE about when to expect the end..while not exactly admitting that they never actually DID have any "special insight" into this at all!

I guess this "new idea" will be published to get new "people" to buy into the WTS opinions and peculiar interpretations, and to believe that the "CREATOR'S PROMISE" has been changed,

Another very devious and clever move by the Boyz In Writing in NY!

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still considering going back to meetings...

by oompa in

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not that i want to or anything, but this therapist guy seems to think that it would be really helpful to my wife.

he says to pull out the good and ignore what you dont like, and that supporting my wife a bit in this way could be good for us as a couple.

it could also let us have at least some shot at keeping the old social life alive.

Sunspot

Almost Atheist said: One of the greatest blessings that came from breaking free from the 'tower was letting go of guilt. I'd hate to see you making decisions motivated by guilt even after getting out.

I have to agree with this 100%. It's one of the MAJOR perks in fleeing the chains that are the WTS, all the "being EXPECTED" to give in to THEIR demands in order to be pleasing to the Watchtowergod, who incidentally, keeps tabs on how many meetings a JW makes.

I SO DISAGREE with your therapists ideas on this.

hugs,

Annie