Posts by Apognophos

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In what sense does Jehovah feel regret - Why the Bible never means what it plainly says.

by Lore in

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from this weeks watchtower study:.

in what sense has jehovah felt regret?.

on a number of occasions, the bible mentions that jehovah felt regret.

Apognophos

The rest of that SAME verse implies that when God says he's going to do something he doesn't change his mind. [...] One of these scriptures has to be wrong. Either it's the one that says god doesn't change his mind, or it's the ones that say he does.

I think you missed the reason why they cited that scripture. It's precisely BECAUSE it seems to conflict with the "regret" scriptures. In other words, the scriptures don't conflict, it's your understanding of the word "regret" that's clearly wrong. QED. Signed, The Watchtower.

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Elders sink to a new low....

by NoRegrets in

so one of my best friends has been dfed for many years.

his invalid grandmother slipped into a coma is likely to pass away soon.

he went to the hospital to see her before her time.

Apognophos

That pretty much says it all, Brother of the Hawk (and welcome!). The problem is that the Witnesses are in a holier-than-thou contest with each other and the world.

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Long Overdue Observation

by earthfire in

i just thought this was funny when it popped into my head this morning.

funny because i should have thought of it long ago and i'm sure that i'm not the first to think this.

the big point comes after my little spiel.. so, god tells noah to build an ark because he has a lot of killing of the wicked to do and only noah and his family seem to be good enough.

Apognophos

cofty, the Witnesses really lost out on a great teacher when you left. So warm and persuasive....

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Is Prince allowed to wear an ear cuff?

by I_love_Jeff in

wearing ear spirals (ear cuffs) traces back to the ancient times.

it has been found out that most egyptians wear them based on the paintings found on the pyramids.

ear cuffs and other jewelries are only worn by royalties back then.. is this scriptural?.

Apognophos

I could never see those pictures again and it would be too soon.

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Anyone have a record of lies told by the WT.

by jam in

example, in print (may 22, 1969 wt, you will never die).. bold face lies, to show that this organization have been lying.

out of their rear since day one.

be denied.

Apognophos

"There are, in fact, many other things also which [they lied about], which, if ever they were written in full detail, I suppose, the world itself could not contain the scrolls written."

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Long Overdue Observation

by earthfire in

i just thought this was funny when it popped into my head this morning.

funny because i should have thought of it long ago and i'm sure that i'm not the first to think this.

the big point comes after my little spiel.. so, god tells noah to build an ark because he has a lot of killing of the wicked to do and only noah and his family seem to be good enough.

Apognophos

The usual answer for that, Finkelstein, that I heard from fellow JWs was that things were advancing from bad to worse too quickly and God needed to step in to preserve true worship. Not unlike the Tower of Babel incident, except that in this case, if Noah and his family were all that were left, it really was nearly the end of God having any servants at all left on Earth.

What I started wondering as I grew up was, "Okay, killing all the humans I get, but why did he have to use a method that killed all the animals too?" That seemed very unnecessarily cruel to me.

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Is this true? Do the elders really do it like this?

by Julia Orwell in

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i put this week's wt paragraph about disfellowshipping on my fb page and said how poor robert's family didn't even check to see whether he was dead or alive in 16 years and a friend of mine of the 'conscious class' commented about how unchristian she felt disfellowshipping to this degree is, and i agreed.. another friend, and uber-jw who has a host of illnesses and yet pioneers, who everytime she and her husband go to another congregation, if he's not appointed within three years they move to another and try for an appointment there - he used to be an elder and no one is willing to promote him again- replied to my thread.

now keep in mind she has a dfd son and she doesn't even know whether he is dead or alive, because she follows the wt to the tee.

she replied, among other things,with this:.

Apognophos

@lriddle80: Wow, punishing a nine year-old like that.... I am pretty sure that in my home congregation they wouldn't have said anything to a kid at all, leaving it to their parents to explain what they did wrong; suspending your right to comment for a month is borderline effed-up.

@talesin: Another sad story of elders out for blood. Isn't it pathetic the minor transgressions that they made us feel so guilty over? So, wait you said it was a "DA Sunday talk", you mean a District Convention? They pulled you into a room at the convention hall for the hearing?

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The Kingom of David never existed!

by 5go in

david and the kingdom of damascus.

the city of damascus is at least 4000 years old.

it is recorded as being conquered by pharaoh tutmosis in the 15th century bc and it became the capital of an aramean kingdom from the 11th century bc.

Apognophos

JC/Lars is brilliant. Crazy but brilliant.

I agree, even if he's wrong, his posts make it clear that he's quite intelligent.

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Real joy and satisfaction in life are unattainable if we live independently of Watchtower

by BlindersOff1 in

heres the real quote from this weeks book study .

"real joy and satisfaction in life are unattainable if we live independently of our creator".

jeremiah book chap.

Apognophos

Nice. I would love to give a subtly sarcastic answer to this paragraph. Something like, "This paragraph really makes the point clear: You simply cannot be happy without living in accord with the Bible. As as we know, most people in the world, even religious ones, just haven't embraced the truth about the Bible and so they're not living in harmony with God's will. So really, none of them are happy! Seven billion unhappy people. It's incredible to think about! Sure, we meet people in the ministry who say they're happy, and they can be very convincing, you know, smiling as they say it... but we know they're not!"

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STAY AWAY FROM MY KINDGOM HALL," LORD'S EVENING MEAL" INVITATIONS REVOKED!!!!!

by AuntConnie in

i am very angry, pent-up rage call it!

so you will understand why and with great ease this subject is able to flow off my tongue onto the keyboard, because this time of the year is worse than your christmas time jitters!

anxiety, stress, compulsive babbling nuts are invading our service groups!

Apognophos

It's interesting to see who can tell a Poe and who can't. Personally I think this is one of AuntConnie's best threads.