Posts by Apognophos

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Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime (NYTimes)

by NewYork44M in

Apognophos

You wrote:

The strengths of sexual desire in normal human feelings and emotions of teenagers towards one another are a lot different than the " strengths of sexual desire " within pedophiles which is primarily based not on " sexual desire " at all - but based on power and control of their potential child victims.

You're asserting that the motive is power, not sex? I am skeptical of that, but I am open to reading something that backs it up. It seems that this is a pretty crucial difference in our viewpoint of pedophiles. That being said, even if you are right, I don't think you really understand what others are saying on this thread. The fact that you keep asserting that this is criminal behavior indicates to me that you think someone else is saying it's not.

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Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime (NYTimes)

by NewYork44M in

Apognophos

I'm curious about your assertion that pedophilia is about power, flipper. Do you have any citations for that? To me, it just seems that the pedophile is using his authority as an adult in order to victimize children -- that it's a means, not a motive.

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The Emergent Success Of "Christian" Forgiveness

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.businessinsider.com/nobel-prize-winner-malala-yousafzai-left-jon-stewart-speechless-2014-10.

when i was young, tv was filled with westerns in which a man was usually defined by his prowess with his fists or a gun.

that motif or concept seems almost entirely gone.

Apognophos

I'm too young to remember the civil rights movement, but old enough to have seen the difference in the treatment of gay people as well as generally greater acceptance for people who were formerly ostracized. Perhaps also some more compassion for animals. It's been surprising to me, perhaps because I was taught to expect the opposite from "this old system of things" or perhaps just because I don't know why this general shift is taking place.

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The Governing Body et al Should Have Been Disfellowshipped!

by The Searcher in

when the wtbts association with the un & the osce was exposed, their own rules should have been rammed down their corrupt and lying throats!.

thank you so much for the watchtower cd rom.

you made a huge rod for your own back.

Apognophos

This is just from two years ago. I would expect they're still a member.

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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

by lambsbottom in

wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

true?

references?.

Apognophos

Crazyguy and ADCMS, you should read blondie's quotes again. The Society is not saying that those who do not hear the message will survive.

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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

by lambsbottom in

wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

true?

references?.

Apognophos

Unless she saw my post before she posted, it looks like blondie and I are thinking along the same lines!

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Be Honest About This Doctrinal Matter

by lambsbottom in

wife says she always thought the wt said that anyone alive at armageddon that did not get a chance to hear kingdom message may survive?

true?

references?.

Apognophos

Yes, things do not look good for anyone who doesn't receive a witness before the end comes. As blondie's quotes illustrate, if a person does not hear the word then they are not going to have a chance to survive Armageddon. I think the reason why it is not considered a requirement for all to hear the word is the concept of "community responsibility", where a group that has shown a general ungodly attitude is judged as a group. This is the same rationale that made it okay for children to be killed along with their wicked parents during the Flood.

This is written from the WT perspective, of course you understand, not my personal beliefs.

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Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime (NYTimes)

by NewYork44M in

Apognophos

DogGone: Heh, yes, it's a pet peeve of mine too when people misunderstand life expectancy. Reading a little history goes a long way. When reading about Alexander the Great in the 300s B.C., you encounter plenty of people who lived into their 80s, including one of Alexander's generals who fought on the front lines, and Isocrates the writer, who is documented to have lived to around 98.

It seems to me that some people have slippery-slope-a-phobia, which is the fear that a small bit of wiggle room will lead to something catastrophic. Somehow acknowledging that pedophiles were born that way will lead to a society where pedophiles are allowed to freely roam the land, abusing children as they go. In reality the main difference that it makes, if society accepts this fact, is that there will be more focus on treatment, and less violent loathing, of people who are cursed with genes that are out of their proper place and time.

Edit: That's not to say that loathing is an inappropriate response to an unrepentant abuser (like Jerry Sandusky). I'm referring to having pity for people who fight against those urges. I suggested earlier that pedophiles who do act regularly on those feelings may be at least somewhat sociopathic in addition to being pedophiles, a sort of "double whammy" if you will.

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Another Christian Post Article: JW's Child Sex Abuse Cases Bring Religion's Practices Into Question

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.christianpost.com/news/jehovahs-witnesses-child-sex-abuse-cases-bring-religions-practices-into-question-127738/jehovah's witnesses' child sex abuse cases bring religion's practices into questionchristian post.

by sami k. martin, christian post reporter october 8, 2014|1:43 pm.

the jehovah's witnesses have a silent epidemic of child abuse that was recently brought to public attention again after four alleged victims filed lawsuits against the organization.. there are over 7 million jehovah's witnesses across the globe, according to the group's website.

Apognophos

Holy crap.

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Is This ALL the Society Meant By Big Stuff Coming?

by millie210 in

ok, internet tv, some new songs and updates on a couple obscure prophecies no one cares about.... .

i for one was so disappointed at the smallness of it.

i guess i bought the hype that when they said "big", they meant it.. .

Apognophos

It wasn't an invention. He owned a company that installs dark fiber, used for wiring local networks, and the Society bought it, apparently to use it to hook up Warwick.

It is probably all related, though. The Society is going digital because print is too expensive. Having a heavy-duty network at Warwick will allow them to push video around faster between buildings/departments, and maybe to stream events live from the HQ like the AGM in 2013 was streamed from the Stanley.