i thought i'd hit it several times before...as i have been thru the divorce over the past couple of years...lost all my so-called friends...lost my belief in what i thought was the "truth"....and now my own loving daughter, being the good little dub she is has told me she doesn't want me to walk her down the aisle at her wedding.
she told me today at lunch.
i almost threw up.
(((((((BONEZZ)))))))))))))
I'm so sorry to hear that. I remember when I got married my dad refused to attend my wedding. And also refused to walk me down the isle. He is not a JW by the way, and never has been. So I can understand the "pain" you are going through. I was just at the other end of the stick.
have you ever noticed someone that just had to be a witness?
for example, you're on vacation in a very warm climate and you see 2 men dressed in suits....they must be witnesses.
or you go to a sporting event and you see a group of guys suddenly run for the nearest bathroom and the national anthem is just about to be played....they must be witnesses.
The thing about Mormons though, is when you see them out in their field service, or what ever they call it. I only see two young men, in dark suits. Either with or without the jacket. And I usually see them on a couple of bikes. Never do I see any female Mormans out in their ministry.
have you ever noticed someone that just had to be a witness?
for example, you're on vacation in a very warm climate and you see 2 men dressed in suits....they must be witnesses.
or you go to a sporting event and you see a group of guys suddenly run for the nearest bathroom and the national anthem is just about to be played....they must be witnesses.
A family comes in Walmart or any other store that is open late, wearing a suit and dresses. Either on a Sunday afternoon or Thursday night.
last week i sent a bunch of photos to mom.
today i got a short letter from her.
kinda floored me, never expected to hear from her.
Last week I sent a bunch of photos to mom. Today I got a short letter from her. Kinda floored me, never expected to hear from her. Here is what she said.
Dear Tammie,
Want to let you know, that two large envelopes with family pictures. Was in Saturdays mail. Thankyou for sending them back. Also noticed there were pictures sent back that was given to you personally.
Do you want those back? How are the boys doing? (She is talking about my 2 sons.)
Do you want copies of your baby pictures? Also pictures with you and family members in?
Love,
Mom
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I'm not sure if I'm going to answer her letter or not. I'm too nervious. Our last communication did not go over to well.
this is what i was always told of ones coming into the org.
and then leaving again.
as a dog returning to its own vomit.
I've heard that saying before. This is the way I look at it. I vomited on my way out. he he So I just had to get away from the stinch. yucky nasty and P-U
i was wondering what it is like to experience childhood in the org.
i am an aspiring writer ad the org has always interested me...not in the sense that i'd like to join.
please send me some replies.
IT SUCKED BIG TIME!!!. I had no friends. Well I take that back. I did have one friend, but she was not a JW. I got her during the three years my mom was inactive. But when she started going again, that was the end of my only childhood friend.
Edited by - Tammie on 3 August 2002 5:57:53
i'm in the process of making plans for my yearly vacation and although i am not really afraid to fly, i must admit to being a little .
apprehensive.
anyway, it seems to me that if i were a famous person i would be even more apprehensive because so many of them .
Reba McEntire had lost her whole band to a plane crash. She was not on it, if I remember correctly because she was sick, and was going to come over the next day.
i almost didn't have time to read the morning's paper, but a banner at the top of the front page entitled "cheerleading for jehovah" got my attention.
interesting comments in the toronto star can be read here.
the article has obvious input from the society and seems to be a pr type move in light of recent bad canadian press (calgary blood case) and likely future canadian programs exposing jws and child abuse.. interesting comments:.
While many of their peers are engaged, married, or pregnant, all three are currently single. What if a non-Jehovah's Witness asks them out? Though the organization does not condemn marriages to people of other religions, none of the three date outside the religion.
There are so many holes in that article. This one caught my attention. I had an elder tell me that is a disfelloshipping offence.
i appolige if this has already been posted..
nasa scientists call british media's asteroid hype unethical rubbish .
by robert roy britt .
I appolige if this has already been posted. | |
| NASA Scientists Call British Media's Asteroid Hype Unethical Rubbish
By Robert Roy Britt Senior Science Writer posted: 07:00 am ET 29 July 2002 | |
A small asteroid threat hyped to gloom-and-doom proportions by British media last week has left several U.S. scientists frustrated and fuming over what they call misleading and unethical stories that frightened readers unnecessarily. Meanwhile, a British reporter defends the stories, a British astronomer wonders what all the fuss is about and another suggests American scientists are too complacent about the danger.
The whole affair, over an asteroid that is almost certainly harmless, illustrates the stylistic ocean that separates American and British media and scientists' tactics in dealing with them.
At least three online British news outlets reported on Wednesday that the asteroid was on a collision course with Earth. Several leading British newspapers -- including The Guardian, the Daily Telegraph, The Independent -- followed on Thursday with similar stories topped by impending catastrophe.
In a few cases the headlines and story leads were flat wrong, several American scientists complain.
The asteroid was not and is not on a collision course, they say, but rather it had a very, very small chance of being on a collision course. A chance they were careful to point out would probably be reduced to zero with further observations.
Indeed, by Thursday the risk had dropped to 3.9-in-1-million and on Sunday NASA said the rock no longer posed any risk for the year 2019, though a minor risk remained for a date in 2060. That probability, too, is expected to go away with more observations.
Similar scares have cropped up in the past, and scientists had admitted some responsibility for not properly handling and qualifying the dissemination of their data. This time around, however, under an agreed-upon policy of full disclosure, the blame for any misinformation sits mostly on the shoulders of the media, they say.
Utter rubbish
Last Wednesday, the BBC's online news site ran this headline: "Space rock 'on collision course.'" The top of the story read: "An asteroid discovered just weeks ago has become the most threatening object yet detected in space. A preliminary orbit suggests that 2002 NT7 is on an impact course with Earth and could strike the planet on 1 February, 2019 -- although the uncertainties are large."
"This is just utter rubbish," said Alan Harris, a researcher at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) who focuses on asteroid risk. "The reader is told that NT7 is on a collision course, followed by an ambiguous 'uncertainties are large.' Uncertainty of what? Time? Place? Maybe the end won't come until Feb. 5, or maybe it will hit the BBC studios and not us."
If 2002 NT7 were to hit the BBC studios, it would wipe out a lot more than a few buildings. The rock is estimated to be 2 kilometers (1.4 miles) wide, big enough to disrupt the global climate and possibly threaten civilization as we know it.
The BBC story pointed this out, then went on to note that astronomers expected more observations to show that the asteroid is not on a collision course. Scientists remain frustrated, however, at finding these facts preceded by what they view as scary misinformation.
Defense of the story
"Complete nonsense." That's what David Whitehouse, the BBC News Online science editor and the writer of the story, said of Harris' criticism. Whitehouse stands by his story and calls it "completely accurate."
"We put the words 'on collision course' in the headline in parenthesis to point out its speculative nature. The first paragraph of the story says nothing about the collision," Whitehouse said Friday in an e-mail interview. "The fact is that 2002 NT7 had an impact solution on 1 Feb 2019."
Another story by the British Sky Broadcasting's Sky News web site provided even fewer qualifications. That story said the asteroid "is on a collision course with Earth", and lower down, that "more work needs to be done to chart the asteroid's exact path." Even further down in the story is a quote from an astronomer saying the asteroid "will probably miss us."
Neither article mentioned that the odds of an impact were small.
Reuters, a news agency that supplies articles to most major news outlets around the world (the story was posted on Yahoo) was more cautious in tone. The story, datelined from London, stated the low odds, but still said the asteroid was "apparently on a direct collision course with Earth."
In fact, astronomers never determined any actual collision course, nor even a possible one. Instead, they draw up a giant elliptical region of space that the asteroid is likely to pass through at given points of time in the future. If Earth happens to be within that ellipse, then there are slight odds of an impact until enough information is gathered that the ellipse shrinks and Earth falls out of the picture.
"I think that in the end it comes down the journalistic objectives, and, perhaps rarely, to journalistic integrity," said Steve Chesley of JPL, where much of the NASA asteroid search is coordinated. "It is unlikely that we will ever see an end to pieces like the one from Sky News."
Doom sells, and perhaps no one knows that better than members of the British media.
Make it sensational
Duncan Steel, an astronomer at the University of Salford in England, has worked for NASA, conducted asteroid searches from Australia, and written the book, "Rogue Asteroids and Doomsday Comets" (Wiley & Sons). He also writes popular asteroid articles for The Guardian newspaper.
Steel says asteroid stories have become so common that in his country they either make headlines or they're not used at all. Unless a reporter "makes it sensational," Steel said, "the reporter on, say, the BBC or Sky will not get the story carried: The editor will nix it. Ditto (especially) for the printed media."
Whitehouse, the BBC science editor, explains it this way:
"Here we have a culture shock -- look at newspaper headlines and the stories they refer to," Whitehouse said. "This is journalism, not a scientific report. We want people to be attracted to it and read it. We also want to tell them the real situation. We did both."
Doom-and-gloom may be more common to British media, but in today's Internet world, their stories are accessible everywhere and sometimes fuel articles by the U.S. media.
"Some American stories are just as dumb as the British," said the JPL's Harris. "I think a significant part of the problem is reading British press with an American mindset." Harris figures Americans tend to trust what they read more than Europeans, who know a misleading statement when they see one.
Even the venerable New York Times got caught up in the frenzy. On Friday (after Harris made the above comments) the Times ran an editorial titled "Rendezvous With an Asteroid," which began "Thank goodness! Another killer asteroid is on the way, just in time to take our minds off the stock market and foreign affairs."
The editorial was partly tongue-in-cheek, but it clearly spelled out the danger presented by 2002 NT7 and did not dwell long on the strong likelihood that the rock would miss Earth. Someone who had not read the Times' news story, which ran on the National section front the previous day, could've been left with the impression there was a fairly significant risk.
Perhaps The Times of London best put the whole situation into perspective. In a Thursday article that poked fun their competition while properly informing their own readers about the threat of the space rock called 2002 NT7: "If you believe this dire scenario, then you have rocks in your head."
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Edited by - Tammie on 29 July 2002 17:47:35
my name is tee.
i'm not a jw i'm just a christian who is curious as some people out there.
my question is (for the jw's out there) why don't you believe in healing others?
BULL FREDHALL. Healings are still done today. I am living proof. The one day when healings are over are when we are perfect. And you can't tell me other wise.
