That sounds like a JW. My mom asked my why I felt like I had to leave "Jehovah's orgization". Her exact words. So I told her, I think we talked close to 40 min. to an hour. Everything that I said, this was her response. It was either:
1. Blaming it on my husband. (Which he had nothing to do with my leaving.)
2. I got it from an apostate site. I guess getting information from the bible or any of their past literature is apostate. Then the JW's are calling themselves apostate. What do you think?
3. No one is perfect. We all have our flaws. (That was when I was talking about the judgemental, unloving attudes I saw in several congerations. (I been in attendance of nearly 20 congerations, with my time in the borg.)
4. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST. EVERYTHING YOU SAY TO A BRAIN WASHED JW, BOUNCES OFF OFF THEM LIKE A RUBBER BALL BOUNCES OFF A BRICK WALL.
Tammie
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Example of Brainwashing Proves WTS Is A Cult!
by MadApostate inafter reading puppylove's post, "a sad example of jw brainwashing /twisted thinking", and hearing very familiar comments, i have decided to relate an experience i had a few days ago, which i am leary to relate since the key factor severely limits the jw population of "possibles".
(details are purposefully sketchy to protect my identity.
a jw, who usually avoids me like the plague, placed themself in a position of being alone with me for a few hours due to their greedy desire to obtain something free.
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Saturday Jokes - G rated (sorry)
by waiting inon the first day of college, the dean addressed the students, pointing out some of the rules.. "the female dormitory will be out-of-bounds for all male students, and the male dormitory to the female students.
anybody caught breaking this rule will be fined $25 the first time.".
he continued, "anybody caught breaking this rule the second time will be fined $50.
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Tammie
Hi waiting, nice to meet you also. I bet that was the last thing you ever thought you would see. It does get quite busy don't it.
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Saturday Jokes - G rated (sorry)
by waiting inon the first day of college, the dean addressed the students, pointing out some of the rules.. "the female dormitory will be out-of-bounds for all male students, and the male dormitory to the female students.
anybody caught breaking this rule will be fined $25 the first time.".
he continued, "anybody caught breaking this rule the second time will be fined $50.
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Tammie
I like the season passes one.
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Is your PC demonised?!
by ISP inbeen tempted to go back to the meetinz?
thinking of having a babble study?
could be your pc!.....
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Tammie
hmmm- Sounds like another "Blame it on the Devil" thingy.
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I have a question reguarding the holidays?
by Tammie ini have a question about the holidays.. this first one is for any in alaska:.
when july 4, rolls around how do you all celebrate it?
here i know they fire off the fire works after dark.
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Tammie
I was thinking more of New Zealand or Austrila (hope I spelled that correctly) area.
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I have a question reguarding the holidays?
by Tammie ini have a question about the holidays.. this first one is for any in alaska:.
when july 4, rolls around how do you all celebrate it?
here i know they fire off the fire works after dark.
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Tammie
I have a question about the holidays.
This first one is for any in Alaska:
When July 4, rolls around how do you all celebrate it? Here I know they fire off the fire works after dark. Oh such a pretty display.
This is question is for any south of the equator:
Your christmas would be in the middle of your summer, correct? So there is not much chance of snow, well I don't have much snow here either. I guess what I am asking what do you do for your winter holidays and your summer holidays. -
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Stress related
by Tammie inbefore my husband and i dissocated ourselves, things was very stressful for the two of us.
and i'm sure it went to the kids.
but since then i and my husband have both noticed considerable good changes going on in our lives.
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Tammie
Before my husband and I dissocated ourselves, things was very stressful for the two of us. And I'm sure it went to the kids. But since then I and my husband have both noticed considerable good changes going on in our lives. Now I don't think it was so much the religion, but our JW relatives who was the cause of the problem. Who know may be it was a combination of both. My mom was always trying to undermind our marrage, I was always bombarded with negative things said about my husband, meeting attendance and so on. When I was a JW I had her, and several other JW relatives tell me and my husband that we would die at Armageddon, and we was going to the meetings and all the stuff assocated with JW's. I had a JW brother in law constantly lied and slandered about us to other relatives. I had JW relatives tell me my children was going to be killed at Armageddon. Now I was a JW, when all this was going on. I would some time even have them show up at my door at 11pm or midnight. All because of this I was gaining weight, and both my husband and I was having stress related problems. I even stopped having my monthly cycle for nearly 6 years. Dr's could not figgure out what was wrong with me. And mom tried her best to convence me that I was dying of cancer or some other life threating problem. My husband was loosing his hair, and was having bleeding problems. The dr said his problem was due to stress. Even our youngest son, well he was having problems also. And it scared the he## out of me.
Now it has been (Aug. 2001) 4 months since our relatives have dissowned us, because we DA ourselves from the JW's. And this is what is going on. My husband's hair stopped falling out, and his bleeding problem has totaly stopped, and the same goes for my son. With me I have been loosing weight and I'm not even on a diet. And since then I've had my 2nd monthly cycle. The first one was back in Oct.
Yea, I miss having a family, but not at the sake of my health. I'm am so glad that they are out of my life now. I do have other relatives who are filling in the empty spaces, so that helps some. And I still have my children and my husband. And they are more important than any lieing, slandering, back stabbers of people. I told my husband, if I ever went back to being a JW (FAT CHANCE, NEVER WILL HAPPEN). I would never allow them back in my lives ever again. And if they ever left that orgization there would be some of them I would never allow to mess with me ever again. The trust issue has been broken by certain family relatives.
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Your best (one sentence) description of the WT
by moman inhere iz mine:.
#1) "a cancer of the soul".
#2) "a fools paradise".
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1. Wolves in sheeps clothing. (Not mine, but I like it.)
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Way Back When You Were A Witness.......
by LB inback in the dark ages did you used to come into message boards like this one, or h20 and try to defend the watchtower society?
i did and things didn't work out so well.
actually they worked out fine, i switched teams.
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Tammie
When I first came on to sites such as these it was for several reasons. The first thing was that the org. was always saying DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THE INTERNET, or some thing close to that. I was wondering what they was trying to hide. he he Now I know. I never tried to defend what the JW's said at the KH, that was hard enough for me to do out in FS. Which I was not doing a whole lot of that any way. But when I really started to dig into sites such as this one, was when the JW's was saying things that was going against my grain. Sheesh I was raised as a JW, and now they was changing things left and right on me. I'm sorry, but a religion should have a solid foundation. And not something that gets changed every so often. And to me, when they dropped the 1914 teaching, I felt like they had done away with any foundation they had. I'm glad that it did, because it just let me know how sneaky and sly they have been all these years. Never will I ever fall for their smooth words.
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I just wonder what they will think?
by Tammie ini was thinking of my jw relatives.
before my husband and i was dissocated, my brother in law was begining to have doubts about the jw religion.
we did not know this at the time.
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Tammie
I was thinking of my JW relatives. Before my husband and I was dissocated, my brother in law was begining to have doubts about the JW religion. We did not know this at the time. After we walked away, an aunt told us. But let me go on. When we told him of our decision to leave he got all rightious, and very judgemental. He said that he was going to tell the elders on us, so we would get df'd. And he was true to his word, before we even told the elders our decision they had already been contacted by him.
Now to the part of where I was wondering. Lets say in another 20 or 30 years when we are getting older, assuming we don't die of some cause. That would put my brother in law around 60 years old, and a grand parent. And the same goes for all my other JW relatives. I just wonder what they will be thinking when the "end" is not here yet. And they are growing old, and all those who was not suppose to die, has already died. And those who are not suppose to get old, has grown old. I just wonder if they would come to their right mind, or if they will still be stubbernly hanging on to their religion. I just wonder what the will be thinking, when it dawns on them they have been living a lie?.