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My wife's anxiety, guilt

by ashitaka in

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my wife has been depressed each time we see our jw friends.

she doesn't want to see them anymore, because it reminds her of what she left behind, and it makes her feel bad.. i've offered to go back to meetings for a while to help her break away.

she never wants to go back, but her guilt and anger make her so uncomfortable around active jw's.....it's really bothering her.. any good books out there on breaking away from controlling organizations, especially concentrating on keeping the friendships but not the allegiance to the organization in question?

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Ashi:
It seems that you can't just walk away without the emotional turmoil. It is like leaving a bad marriage. You need to do it but you still go through this period of limbo and adjustment. It is important for your wife to realize that it does not stay this way. She has to allow herself time to adjust and she needs to understand that what she is feeling is normal. It will get better and better.
It is my experience that it is very hard to keep JW friends. They will not be satisfied with the arrangement. You will either not be good enough for them anymore or they will make it their mission to get you back in "the fold". I have just one friend from back in Wisconsin who is also leaving. The rest are just gossiping about me now. I also realize that most of the people that I was friends with I didn't really even like, I never would have been friends with them if we weren't all JWs. Now you can choose your friends by who you like, not by whether they are of your religion or not. It is interesting to look back over the JW experience without the rose colored JW glasses on.

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JW criminals I've known...

by target in

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they are an honest bunch all right.. i lived in a smaller city in wisconsin.

there was yet a smaller city right to the south and there was a restaurant that was owned by the uncle of a witness.

this restaurant was robbed one day by a non jw guy and his jw girlfriend.

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They are an honest bunch all right.
I lived in a smaller city in Wisconsin. There was yet a smaller city right to the south and there was a restaurant that was owned by the uncle of a witness. This restaurant was robbed one day by a non JW guy and his JW girlfriend. She went to prison for it. A few years later this restaurant opened a new place in the city where I lived and the nephew (MS) was the manager. During the Thursday night meeting a JW sister walked into this restaurant with a gun while her new non JW husband waited in the car and attempted to rob the place. A DF'd brother sitting there tackled her and took the gun away. She went to jail but put all the blame on her husband who went to prison and she is on probation. (The MS JW got called at the KH by the police that there had been an attempted robbery. Was he surprised to find it was a young sister from his own congregation!)
Our neighbor JW was the biggest crook around. He just never got caught.
There was the couple of JW burglars. They went to prison. The one was DF'd but the other's father-in-law was the PO so nothing was done to him.
Another brother driving without a license tried to out run the cops and rolled the car, killing his wife who was 8 months pregnant with their first child. The baby died too. The wife was an only child. He went to prison. Her parents were out in service the day after the accident to show they were relying on Jehovah.
My good friend who "studied" the same time I did and later decided she was annointed is now divorced from her husband who became a JW and ended up in prison for child molesting. He was molesting young girls from the KH.
The young brother who stole a sister's welfare check out of her purse and cashed it with his mother's help. He was around 13 so not much was done to him at the time. They moved away but he later ended up in prison. Before he got caught the young brothers were complaining that when ever he was around things disappeared. When I said he had sticky fingers his mother was furious that I would say such a thing about her little boy.
Yep, JW crooks abound.

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6

mouth full of apostates

by ballistic in

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last april, i was waiting on my patio with my dog, patch listening to ladonnas greatest hits, when something amazing happened; an englishman i know called simon from kent who is also achristain and a deep thinker rem-embered my borg free aniversary, and said, "i thought it would be logical to bring you some bitter mango, lilacs and flowers, but don't go ballistic - i forgot your billy goat, but you do look closer2fine.

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I think you are right on target.

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I kicked the Borg out!

by target in

sometimes our recovery depends a lot on how we percieve the events that took place.

over the years i felt like the victim so many times and until i couldn't take it anymore and i "left".

i suddenly realized that i didn't go anywhere.

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Sometimes our recovery depends a lot on how we percieve the events that took place. Over the years i felt like the victim so many times and until I couldn't take it anymore and I "left".
I suddenly realized that I didn't go anywhere. I am still here. My life is still here. It is the Borg that is gone from my life because I KICKED IT OUT! I am the one with the power, not them. I had this whole mental fantasy where I told the elders they are all a bunch of bastards and they can get the hell out of my life. I AM KICKING THEM OUT! I wish I had thought about the whole thing this way before. It makes me feel really great.

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PS. In a fantasy you can slap them upside the head.

38

why, what made you join JWs?

by tosko in

i would like some brief stories of people saying the reasons they joined jw organisation.

where you already in another church, were you disillusioned, were you biblically illiterate?

and if it is possible, please let me know where you come from, hoping you're not all from usa.

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I was disillusioned with my Lutheran religion. My husband was Catholic. After he was through Viet Nam we had a lot of questions and wanted to understand the Bible. The Witnesses claimed to have that understanding. It was the idea of a Paradise in the very near future that got me hooked. That was 30 years ago.

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25

Weight

by gilwarrior in

well today i went to my trainer and i weighed myself.

i weigh a disgusting 258 pounds!

i new record for me.

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A lot of people have been motivated by visiting www.zonehome.com
All kinds of variations of diets and exercise are discussed there. It is a very pleasant atmosphere. I have found it to be very helpful.

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14

Are you a true apostate?

by sleepy in

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friends

are you a true apostate?.

heres a test that has been put together by the worlds top scientists to determine your true level of apostateness.. you recieve the latest watchtower and awake do you,.

a.devour its contents eagerly.. b.have a look to find the errors.. c.throw it in the bin.. d.cover it in petrol, set light to it and dance around praising satan.. how do yo feel about the elders ?.

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I'm a 'D', I'm a 'D'. Trap door's ready. Usi fully loaded. Dog is snarling. Where are they? Hot oil is boiling. Come on, come on! Make my day!

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13

There's no gossip like a JW

by target in

i recently admitted to a jw back in wisconsin that we no longer go to meetings.

i told her that we have not disassociated but we do not think of ourselves as jws anymore.

i had been close friends with this person since 1974. .

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I recently admitted to a JW back in Wisconsin that we no longer go to meetings. I told her that we have not disassociated but we do not think of ourselves as JWs anymore. I had been close friends with this person since 1974.
Now the phone calls are coming. I think all of SE Wisconsin knows about it and of course things got twisted. I think she set some sort of record for how fast she spread that gossip. I have yet to see a JW who will not stab their best friend in the back when the opportunity presents itself. It reminds me of how in Germany people turned in their best friends to the Nazis just because they were Jews and not a pang of conscience. This woman has caused so much damage in her own family with her shunning nonsense, now she has tried to get my daughter-in-law's mother to shun her just for not going to meetings. I am so damn glad to be out of that cult. I can't believe so many people can be such idiots. They should all be slapped upside the head!

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1

Things you should know...

by target in

if you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days, you would have.

produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee.

worth it).

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If you yelled for 8 years, 7 months and 6 days, you would have

Produced enough sound energy to heat one cup of coffee. (Hardly seems

worth it)

If you passed gas consistently for 6 years and 9 months, enough

gas is produced to create the energy of an atomic bomb. (Now that's

more like it)

The human heart creates enough pressure when it pumps out to the

Body to squirt blood 30 feet. (OMG!)

A pig's orgasm lasts 30 minutes. (In my next life I want to be a pig)

Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour. (I'm

still not over the pig)

A cockroach will live nine days without its head, before it

Starves to death. (Creepy!)

The male praying mantis cannot copulate while its head is

Attached to its body. The female initiates sex by ripping the male's head off.

("Honey,I'm home. What the....." )

Some lions mate over 50 times a day.

(I still want to be a pig in my next life. Quality over quantity. )

Butterflies taste their own feet. (Something I always wanted to know. )

Elephants are the only animal that cannot jump. (OK, so that would be a good thing.... )

A cat's urine glows under a black light. (I wonder who was paid to figure that out.)

An ostrich's eye is bigger than its brain. (I know some people like that.)

Starfish have no brains.(I know some people like that too. )

Polar bears are left handed. (Who knew...? Who cares! )

Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure. (What about the pig?) !!!!

Just thought you should know these things!

24

CO says 35% inactive

by target in

jw
friends

the co visiting a congregation in madison wisconsin told them that 35% are inactive.

i wonder if this is the pattern with most other congregations.

that was about what it was in the last congregation i was in.

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Since I was not there I am only reporting what the sister wrote who was there. She said "inactive" but it probably was "irregular". Many JWs interchange the two terms.
It makes me laugh, though, when I think of the other Co just a few weeks ago who told the congregation I went to back there that they should prepare for a big increase. There was sure a lot of room in the Kingdom Hall for them because it was always half empty. It was only 30 miles from this last one where the CO said the problem was.
You would think some of them could look around and see that things were not as they should be, but no, they are all excited about the coming increase and all the Bible Studies they will have. It makes one want to slap them upside the head and tell them to wake up!

When I was entrenched in the borg, I used to wonder how people could blindly follow Hitler. He told his followers that they were the superior race. They would take over the world. Not much different than the JW rhetoric after all.

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