so: the mystery has been clarified as to more "new light" / clarifications of decades old doctrine and procedure.
august watchtower has finally been leaked.
disfellowshipping?
On Reddit a lot of reactions from those who experienced a comité and got DF.
The paradigma shift from Elders who act like communist judges to a softer aproach and a new name for the proces (removing) in a footnote of the magazine, is still hurting a lot of people.
You can't take a way the pain of victims and bystanders using a footnote!
So happy to have left this sect with my wife and 2 children. Better then ever!
Gorby
big news.
just in from a friend who is fading.. disfellowshipping will no longer be a term used by jws.
study article 35, paragraph 4 footnote says this:.
At the rare moments when we visit the hall, we (family of 4, incl 2 children) get a cold shoulder. Pomo but no sins only absence. Last time we were put on the cheapest seats with one or two cold greetings.
So there is a world to win, I should say.
Understatement anyway.
Gorby
big news.
just in from a friend who is fading.. disfellowshipping will no longer be a term used by jws.
study article 35, paragraph 4 footnote says this:.
The effect is the same. DF and Removed leads to shunning.
So, we call the rain from now urdidurdi but still getting wet.
So good to be free from this full sect!!!
Gorby
i thought i would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention.
i am in the yard.
the gals get out and are wearing pants.
Many empty seats in Holland, too.
Gorby
it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
The graphics and the pictures are dank en full of guild and humble attitude by the lost sheep.
Full sect mode.
Gorby
i was born in 1964, so, i was 10 when the buildup to 1975 was happening (and watched the subsequent failure of that).then, when i was a teenager, i got to see the fallour of the big apostacy events in the 1980s.during all of this, i was told by my parents and by people of my parents' peer group that "this old system won't last much longer, and won't the new system be great!
"it is now 2024. i am going to be 60 years old in a few months.
over half a century.my mom died two months after her 80th birthday last year, after suffering for years of chronic poor health (some of it brought on by a very sedentary lifestyle, but also plagued by emotional and mental issues and family drama which did not help overall.
I'm from 1970, but could have wrote the same experience.
Better then ever, and free!
Gorby
from reddit.. a summary of changes: .
we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.
if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!
It seems the organization is delegate the dissision to avoid / DF someone to the individual jw.
From legal point briliant, for the local social group killing. Reputations will be made and broken.
Gorby
it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
The markers!
A f@cked up sect, where you don't need enemies with such friends.
Gorby
from reddit.. a summary of changes: .
we are all sinners, so we have to be reasonable how we punish sinners.
if elders and congregation do not quickly help someone come to be reinstated they would be imitating satan the devil, not jehovah (yes that actually is what is said in the tagalog version in translation!
Not because of love or compassion, but because of legal and money.
Gorby
it was translated so make sure everything looks ok.. 2024-08-august-edition of watchtower magazine.. .
https://smallpdf.com/result#r=c90d948913ed99d72872c0a1c609f388&t=share-document .
leopold.
