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  Any Former Elders?

  by ItsJustMe in

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  would any former elders like to share their experiences serving on judicial committees?

  were your decisions subjective?

  do you feel that the "system" works?

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  TheOldHippie

  To Ginny:
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  This is a bit off topic, but I wonder if you or anyone else knows . . . How far in advance are The Watchtower and Awake! magazines written and printed? How much time do the guys at Brooklyn have to "stop the presses" if they change their mind on an issue and want to either edit or suppress an article?
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  The presses are stopped all the time, so to speak. I have a friend who is a translator, and he tells me right up to the moment the very last master copy is sent to the printers', corrections keep on coming in. Sentences are changed or removed or added, whole paragraphs etc. The QFR on praying for DF'd persons, was originally not in the magazine, there was another QFR which the translators found a bit "strange" as it contained much more "new light", but then, as the magazine was to be wired, along came this new QFR which was to substitute the other one.
  You can see the same for example in the Daniel book, where there are at least three different versions.
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  The "Flood" caused by a comet impact ...

  by Mindchild in

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  this article, which mentions the recent probable discovery of a comet impact crater in iraq around the time for the biblical flood, might interest some on this board.. .

  http://space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/comet_bronzeage_011113-1.html.

  i personally believe the myth of a global flood is nothing more than ancient legends but then we now know that the earth is routinely blasted by fairly large asteroids and comets that can release the energy of 10 million atomic bombs and dramatically effect life on earth.

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  TheOldHippie

  I could not agree more, Rex B13. In 1950, they thought they had reached the very final step or point or whatever, now they had it all figured out as to the Universe, the Earth etc. In 1960, they laughed heartily at the old fossilized ideas of 1950 because NOW they had it all figured out. Etc., etc. Today, each and every new book or article "debunks" some idea or notion, because NOW we know how it REALLY was. In 10 years' time, we will sigh or laugh or smile or whatever at what we believed back in good old 2001. Wasn't it Lord Kelvin or someone who around 1900 said that physics was by then a fullfilled science, emptied, everything that could possibly be discovered within the realms of physics had by then been discovered. I guess history has shown that it was around then that physics got started. "Now" evolution has "finally disproven" creation I feel I am being told every year, "now", "now". How come it is always "now", what about these previous "final proofs", were they not so final after all?
  Like someone once said, that atheists are the most boring people there are, because they only want to talk about religion all the time.
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  Ezekiel, Stephen Bates, JW's

  by messenger in

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  stephen bates mentions jw's again, i think brother gillis is getting a lesson in how to be a pr man.. .

  http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,593633,00.html.

  gloomy ezekiel was an epileptic, says doctor .

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  TheOldHippie

  Seeing how he comments on religion / Bible topic in general, he perhaps cannot be considered the most "neutral" source as to religious topics?
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  WT library on CD

  by Stealth in

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  is there a written or unwritten rule about who can or can't order a wt lib cd in the congregation?.

  i ordered one several months back, and went to pick it up this week.

  the bro at the lit.

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  TheOldHippie

  No "rules", my friend - the only limitation is that they are delivered "one and one" according to individual orders, that is they are not kept in stock in each congregation.
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  Bureaucracy in Action!

  by teejay in

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  1. start with a cage containing five apes.

  in the cage,.

  hang a banana on a string and put stairs under it.. before long, an ape will go to the stairs and start.

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  TheOldHippie

  Is this an actual experiment, or just imagined?
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  The JW religion or the person, whose fault is it?

  by larc in

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  i just read the tragic story of the man in chicago who beat his daughter to death.

  i have read stories here and on silentlambs about sexual abuse.. my question is: how much fault can be placed on the religion and how much on the perversions of a particular individual?

  i frankly don't know the answer to this question.

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  TheOldHippie

  Just two lines on the post of Sirona, which I otherwise enjoyed:
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  "It is known that there is more occurance of mental illness in Jehovahs Witnesses than in some other religious groups"
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  I think one should be very careful when uttering such statements. "It is known" - among whom, research done by whom, etc. Even if research was made in one area, one country, one cannot deduce from that that such a phenomenon is universal. As for my part, I know of only one research project pointing to this, and that was done in Western Australia among prison inmates doing time for military refusal. Being locked up for a period probably would produce mental disorders among quite a few. That research has, however, been stretched to imply that close to all Witnesses had mental disorders, although the team behind the project had to intervene and ask people not to stretch their research in such a manner.
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  "I also strongly disagree with the society's advice on seeing mental health professionals. I remember one quote in a watchtower where they said that consulting a professional was like "jumping from the frying pan into the fire" because of the possible worldly influence."
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  This I do not understand, as people are encouraged to seek professional help if they / their closest feel there is need for that. I know a handfull of people who have needed and sought such treatment and who were helped indeed by it. No eyebrows have been lifted because of that, and of course should not be, either.
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  Picture of Xmas at Bethel

  by LovesDubs in

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  would someone please be so kind as to scan and post the picture of christmas at bethel with rutherford and all the little bethelites sitting around amidst presents and decorations?

  i believe it was in the in search of christian freedom book, which someone borrowed from me and didnt return.

  i need to show it to some unbelievers...or rather...dis believers :) remember now...when christ came back in 1918 and judged bethel as his own ...they were celebrating christmas and birthdays!

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  TheOldHippie

  The Christmas photo ought not to be too "secret"; it is in the Proclaimers book as well, is it not? I remember we had a convention talk some years ago on how the Watchtower magazine carried adverts for Christmas cards etc., so this is common knowledge.
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  Why Nazis Won't Save the Watchtower

  by metatron in

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  yep, here we go again --- yet another article about a .

  witness surviving nazi persecution (awake dec.22, 01).

  the society seems obsessed with nazis - i would think.

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  TheOldHippie

  A question for edward gentry:
  In what book or magazine does the story appear which you relate to, that big guys with wings scared off a Nazi officer?
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  JW couple beats daughter to death

  by saltiest in

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  i just read this article in the chicago sun times.

  when i started reading the parents were religious and then saw home-schooling, i had a gut feeling they were jw's.

  i read on and found out i was right.

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  TheOldHippie

  Just a question, I know nothing about this story, but the first post said that one found one of the Witnesses' books in the home or hall. Over here, if a person has gone to a meeting once, oris subscribing to thge magazines, the whole community considers him a Witness. Is this the case of a person having literature or showing some interest, or is this the case of a twisted Witness?
  Over here, the law denies the parents the possibility of beating their children; all that is allowed for, is a "slight slapping" if the child is below the age of three. And Witnesses comply with that, letters have been read, speeches are given etc., where we are told that of course we must obey that law and that that law is also in accordance with the Bible, that "rod" does not mean beating but instructing.
  Parents doing things as the article tell about, should not be taken as being typical Witnesses or commented upon by people here as "that's how those bastard Witnesses are", because they are freaks, they are abnormal people who should be disfellowedshipped long before such tragic events take place, they are in no way Witnesses. And, as one also stated, we find the same problem in many other so-called Christian groups, so it is a question of sick people, not sick religion.
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  Classical Music Survey

  by Celtic in

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  what classical music do you enjoy and why?

  can you please state whether in/out jw's?

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  TheOldHippie

  I am IN, and I dislike close to all classical music; a bit of the romantic type a la Czech composers I like, and - fasten your seat belts - Gregorian church music or choirs or whatever you call it. Otherwise? Rock & roll, blues and the good old '68-type of music.
  C&W? No way!