You tell 'em IW
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Tracy
mymailmum.
yet again i am reading your stock answers to new posters... with all respect - cant you come up with anything new?
obviously you are working on repetition for emphasis this week in your ministry school - only it wont work here i'm afraid!
You tell 'em IW
LOLOL@Intro
Tracy
you may have read my thread from last week entitled "my personal turmoil" in which i discussed my congregation elders wanting to meet with me to "encourage" me to believe that jehovah is using the watchtower society as his organization.
i said in that thread that i had told them to leave me alone, well anyway on tuesday night the same elder phoned me to accept a "shephering visit" and again i refused.
not taking no for an answer he approached me again in the kingdom hall on thursday and told me that i must accept a shepherding visit out of necessity because i was in spiritual danger and the elders wanted to "help".
Hi StevieB
I am sorry they are hounding you this way. They want to push you into a corner so they can "deal" with you...meaning slap a label on you and DF you. Depending on when you were baptised, they can say that in your baptism vows you DID in a sense vow loyalty to "God's earthly organization".
Just a suggestion, since you can't win in open confrontation with them, as you said, they will not listen to what you have to say, I would just become an expert at politely avoiding them. Believe me, it can be done. If they want to scedule a meeting, tell them to call you sometime, you're just really busy right now. If they show up at your house, either don't answer the door, or come rushing out the door to your car and say you are late for an appt...could they come back another day? Do you get my drift? If they think you are being defiant, they will keep on hunting you down. If they think you are just weak, and VERY BUSY you will fade off their radar screen.
And Stevie, this person Mymailmum that responded to you is spamming all the new posters with this same response. Makes you think they didn't even bother to read your story, doesn't it? Just thought you should know so you wouldn't take them too seriously.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
ok, so i moved out on saturday.
i am not 18 for 17 more days but my mom asked me to leave early all the same.
on friday things got hairy, we had jw friends from out of town visiting, and i exploded.
Hi Katie
I am so glad things are working out for you!! Take care of yourself and keep doing what you're doing. Life will start to make more sense.
To IW: You are right. Mymailmum is making the exact same response to all the new posters right now. Apparently not even bothering to read their stories and address personal remarks to them. I guess spamming is easier. Take care of yourself...and keep those eyes open
Tracy
i am a 4th generation witness (on both sides of the family) and indeed my entire family (save for the few who "fall away" in every family) are jehovah's witnesses.
my dad is an elder, my mom a regular pioneer and my two elder sisters the same.
my younger sister is 17 and still unbaptized, so therefore she is sort of a "black sheep" in our family and "spiritually weak" for not having already "taken the dip in the pool" (however, due to her overall open-minded nature, i am perhaps closest to her).
Hi Crownboy,
Welcome to this board
You gave me so much history about yourself, I don't know where to start! I too was raised a JW, but unfortunately not by a liberal minded family like you. I too had doubts growing up, but just stifled them. At this point in my life, I DON'T know all the answers. Really, no one does. We can have hope and faith...but the reality of it is that the only hope we have is THAT THERE IS A HOPE!
But that's cool, I can live with that. And the main thing I am enjoying is the freedom to think for myself, explore other teachings, weigh them and decide for myself if they have any validity. You will find some fascinating discussions on this board and others pertaining to spiritual paths. Only now you have the freedom to fully express what you REALLY think, so enjoy it!!
P.S. Crownboy, This person who posted a response to you, Mymailmum, is spamming all the new posters here with the same exact response. I would doubt very seriously that they even took the time to read your post...they certainly did not respond to you directly. Just thought you'd like to know that.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
P.S. Tammie,
Mymailmum is spamming all the new posters here with this same exact response. Until he/she gives the kind consideration to actually address any of your concerns or questions, I would have a hard time taking anything they say seriously.
Tracy
i have been reading the posts here for a while and decided it was time to introduce myself and tell you about my experiences.
sorry it is so long, but there is quite alot to tell!
i was half brought up as a jw from birth.
To Mymailmum,
What is this spamming business you are doing to the new posters here?
Don't you care enough about their eternal salvation to at LEAST address personal remarks to them? You are just cutting and pasting your same remarks over and over.
May I suggest you take the time to actually read the personal experiences given and attempt to address their concerns. Do you have answers for them as to why they suffered so terribly(some of them) even WHILE they were faithfully serving Jehovah? Can you tell them WHY some of them were molested by JW ELDERS...men who are STILL in good standing in the congregation? Seriously, if you have words of comfort and encouragement to them, please offer it. But do them the courtesy of addressing remarks specifically to them...respect their humanity.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
i have been reading the posts here for a while and decided it was time to introduce myself and tell you about my experiences.
sorry it is so long, but there is quite alot to tell!
i was half brought up as a jw from birth.
Hi Rizzo,
Welcome to the board! I share Simon's sentiments, I am glad that you are able to focus on your kids and having a healthy, happy life with them. You go girl!!!!
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
To Mymailmum,
You said:
If I would have stayed in the Kingdom Hall just because of the people, imperfect people just like me, believe me I would have left a long time ago. I love Jehovah and if he allows certain things to continue for a time, then that is His decision.
So you are saying that Jehovah ALLOWS pedophiles to continue to molest thousands of innocent witness children? Gee, is that a test for them too? How exactly is a 5 year old girl tested BY JEHOVAH by being raped by an elder? Hmmmm? I would dearly love to hear your explanation of that one.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
Hi Rick
Welcome to the board. I'm glad you jumped in and gave us some of your story. I am especially glad that you did NOT have to suffer some of the more traumatic events that many here have. I am especially glad that you were able to de-program yourself. Living with doubts is not a comfortable way to live. Congrats on your fourth child coming soon, and congrats on finding someone great to share your life with!!!
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
i've been lurking for 2 months.
acually, this is my first experience with posting ect.
so don't expect too much.
((((Sam))))
Want to welcome you to the board too. Glad you felt like joining in. I lurked too(looking over hubby's shoulder) before I posted...now they can't GET me to shut up!
I am sure you will find some here with similar thoughts and experiences as yours. Keep posting and make some friends!
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."