Oh Farkel,
You're ALWAYS nice!
It's not YOUR fault if some people don't know dipfuck is a term of endearment where you come from.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
yes it has always put a question in my mind.
why the two different classes?
jesus did not teach two different classes of belivers.
Oh Farkel,
You're ALWAYS nice!
It's not YOUR fault if some people don't know dipfuck is a term of endearment where you come from.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
makena1 spoke about a co who was a fan of the detroit pistons and he went on:"this same co (perhaps a do years later) was removed because he was caught or finally admitted that he had been consorting with prostitutes.
apparently he paid for this from gifts given to him by wealthier brothers.
does this ring a bell for anyone?
Sorry BJ,
No bells ringing here. Maybe someone else knows.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
first off, i apologize if this subject has been hashed out before or even lately...i haven't noticed it if it has, but i need to ask it now, as it affects my family as i'm sure it does now, or has in the past, affected many of you here.. i have a daughter who is a very active jw, and a very typical one.
if the wts says it, it has to be so...or if she doesn't down deep agree with it, then god will eventually fix it, but for the time being she is supposed to go along with it....etc.
etc.. this is how she feels about df'ing, da'ing and the resulting shunning..even of a close family member, like her brother whom she adores.
Hi Had Enough,
I'm sorry you too have been negatively affected by this policy. I can answer the last part of your question. Hubby and I both have been df'd for little over two years now. ALL OF OUR FAMILIES on both sides are JW's(except my sweet sister ) and I will NEVER, EVER EVER EVER be reinstated. Once I broke free of the mind control, the whole IDEA of shunning me to "get me to come to my senses" just pisses me off!! The way I see it, my family is making a choice. If they don't want a relationship with me and my kids, then that's fine. I told them, you want to consider me as dead? Well, that works both ways. Don't call me, don't write me...don't expect me to come to your funerals. Expect the same from me. That way I could do my grieving and get on with my life.
Just MY OWN personal experience and opinion. I am not suggesting that for anyone else. You would have to know my family to understand.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
i can't belive it's been a whole year!!!!.
last year on oct 3rd, i was at home with my parents eating dinner.
we of course were not at the meeting .
Congratulations Venice!
I think you and Expat are onto something. All good things happen in October...(it happens to be when I came into the world, and WHAT could be better than that?)
Pour me a glass and I'll join you in a toast to freedom.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
yes it has always put a question in my mind.
why the two different classes?
jesus did not teach two different classes of belivers.
Hi Ephesian,
Just wanted to add my welcome!
I too read "The Age of Reason" by Thomas Paine and it changed my view of the bible entirely. Don't read it unless you have a really open mind and are willing to examine all sides of a story. I found it enlightening. Hope to hear more from you in the future.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
my life in the jehovahs witness organization.
by lawrence l. henderson.
the genesis.
Hi Blackman,
I enjoyed your story, well written and many details included that I think many of us can relate to. I am sorry you have suffered the loss of your JW family and friends too...as so many of us have. What a relief though that Judine was having doubts at the same time. Such a comfort for you both to be able to share those with each other and talk it out. I wish you both the best in your happy family life without the control and interference of a man made organization.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
To Mymailmum,
You STILL overlooked some glaringly obvious things in your response to me. WHAT IF THE MOLESTER NEVER ADMITS HE DID IT? Then how is he punished? And don't tell me to "wait on Jehovah". In the time everyone is "waiting on Jehovah" to correct the problem, the man can molest HUNDREDS more children. And you just try going to the authorities about it and see what the reaction is of your local elders. They will advise you that you are bringing reproach on Jehovah's name by making something like this public, and that the brothers should be allowed to handle it themselves. I know, been there and seen it. You CANNOT tell me these men had god's holy spirit.
Also, you make the assumption that child molesters can overcome their PROBLEM with help from Jehovah. You are obviously terribly ignorant about the illness of pedophilia. They are repeat performers, so to speak...and are not able to "turn around from their bad way". Even with the help of competent professionals and medication, which is more help than any JW ever got.
As for your claim that you and your daughter were molested...sorry dear...but I don't believe a WORD of it. Nothing in your posts rings with sincerity, but especially that doesn't. I would be surprised if you even HAVE a daughter. If you did, and she'd been molested...and you were a healthy, normal mother...your reaction would be different. Actually, I get the feeling that you are a male poster attempting to appear female. So I am glad you are done with this board, because I am done wasting my time with you. You only came on here to stir up trouble, not to offer any sincere words of encouragement. So go report to your body of elders that your attempts here were unsuccesful. You were spotted for what you are.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
laura schlessinger is a us radio personality who dispenses advice to.
i have tried asking, but most women take offense.. d) lev.
he violates lev.
Excellent post Closer...I hope Dr Laura choked on that one
I want my own Canadian! I promise I will be kind to them and treat them well. Since Naebs is already taken, and Mango is too pretty to keep around the house(competition you know () could I have that one who is said to walk around with a really long banana?
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
Well said FreePeace and Bridgette
Mymailmum, I will address one more comment to you, since the others already addressed most of your points.
You said
I would teach my child about the faithful and discreet slave class that is feeding us properly and the only place to get that spiritual food is at the Christian meetings of Jehovah’s Witnesses, the majority of who are doing what Jehovah asks of them.
So you would teach your child, who was raped by an elder, that the faithful and discreet slave is STILL feeding her food at the proper time, EVEN THOUGH IT IS THEIR POLICIES THAT WOULD ALLOW THE RAPIST TO REMAIN AN ELDER IN GOOD STANDING? After all, if your daughter didn't have two witnesses to the attack, it would be her word against his. And you as her parent would NOT BE ALLOWED TO TELL OR WARN ANY OF THE OTHER WITNESSES OF THE ABUSE...for then you would be dealt with judicially for slander. I think if you truly told that to a child who had been molested, that would be just another abuse heaped on that child. I hope you don't have children.
think41self
"Not believing is not the same as not knowing."
i have been reading the posts here for a while and decided it was time to introduce myself and tell you about my experiences.
sorry it is so long, but there is quite alot to tell!
i was half brought up as a jw from birth.
Good point Rizzo...one response fits all...kinda like "Depends"?
Tracy