why is it that anything that purports to be The Truth or a book inspired by god is wrapped up in theories and hidden meanings...surely if god wanted man to know his message etc it would be laid out simply and clearly without risk of double meanings..144,000 could be anything if stared at long enough....it makes less and less sense to me the older I get....smoke and mirrors..
westiebilly11
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144,000 in Revelation May not be Referring to Individuals at all!
by objectivetruth ini'm testing a theory.. so many people discuss whether or not 144,000 is a literal number.. i want to discuss, what if 144,000 is not a number of individuals, rather a number of groups of people.. .
while there is no unanimous acceptance or truth, some believe that the book if revelation was written in hebrew originally.
my theory is based in this possibility.
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Just noticed something else that proves the Bible is made up.
by BU2B inexodus 9 then the lord said to moses, go to pharaoh and say to him, this is what the lord, the god of the hebrews, says: let my people go, so that they may worship me.
2if you refuse to let them go and continue to hold them back, 3the hand of the lord will bring a terrible plague on your livestock in the fieldon your horses, donkeys and camels and on your cattle, sheep and goats.
4but the lord will make a distinction between the livestock of israel and that of egypt, so that no animal belonging to the israelites will die.?.
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westiebilly11
How could I justify my actions as a loving father if I allowed a murderer into the home and allowed him to slaughter my children..and then had the temerity to justify myself by saying I allowed him in to prove I am a righteous god deserving of worship..... I just don't get it....how could a god have allowed satan to exist and cause (allegedly) death on human race ...and then allow billions upon billions of people to suffer death and disease...cancer and heartbreak..loss and pain....far easier surely to have wiped satan out before he manifested himself.....?...
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Just noticed something else that proves the Bible is made up.
by BU2B inexodus 9 then the lord said to moses, go to pharaoh and say to him, this is what the lord, the god of the hebrews, says: let my people go, so that they may worship me.
2if you refuse to let them go and continue to hold them back, 3the hand of the lord will bring a terrible plague on your livestock in the fieldon your horses, donkeys and camels and on your cattle, sheep and goats.
4but the lord will make a distinction between the livestock of israel and that of egypt, so that no animal belonging to the israelites will die.?.
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westiebilly11
reminds me of the account of herod having all the local newborn babies killed......how many would there have been in such a small locality?....it always seemed that he massacred thousands...but would probably actually have been a handful,....
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"Keep Doing This In Remembrance Of Me"...keep doing what???
by minimus inif a witness tells you that jesus commanded you to go to the memorial, how would you respond?.
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westiebilly11
outlaw...very very funny!!!thanks!
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Counting of "tract" or "memorial" invitations on reports slip!
by stuckinarut2 inso, the new arrangement is to get all the cong to count every tract and memorial invite and dc invite placed etc!.
can you beleive this!
how controlling and completely stupid!...i mean what is the reasoning behind counting a slip left in soemones letterbox???
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westiebilly11
..compiling a second book of Numbers......very sad......did Jesus keep a record?...no.
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I'm postponing my JW elderette and her BS session again
by Faithful Witness ini really do have more important things to do this week, so i am postponing my elderette again.
she has not yet contacted me for her "topic of discussion" for the week.
i know she wants time to prepare her speech and presentation.
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westiebilly11
did jesus shun?....no.
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Change of mindset.
by thedog1 ini have been a witness for a long time and still serve as an elder.
there have been a lot of changes to deal with in the last six months or so since i stumbled on this site due to questions i had about all the recent changes in understanding published in the wt.
many posters here talk about a cult personality and a real personality.
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westiebilly11
the trouble with the Jw mindset is that they insist on doing nothing to help mankind positively today ..because god will help them tomorrow. If a man was starving to death they'd give him a recipe book instead of a food.........
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The End of Circuit Overseers
by wisdomfrombelow ini am sure that the term "circuit overseer" will be gone soon.
they seem to be changing vocabulary and the presiding overseer is now the "coordinator of the body of elders" and all "district overseers" will be gone in a few months.
they used to be called "circuit servants" but they will never re-hash an old term so they will make a new term.
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westiebilly11
..regional directors...
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westiebilly11
random points:
a).is there any way of proving exact amount of fuel on plane..ie. if a plot then perhaps plane had extra fuel to travel further.
b) if hijacked (if)..then no group will claim responsibilty as it would flag up danger and perhaps stall any deviant purpose they might have yet to use plane for.
c) if hijacked / in danger why no mobile phone calls/texts from passengers ( assuming phones not in flight mode)
just random thoughts.....either way my thoughts are with the families of missing persons..must be awful for them being in limbo...
initially I thought it must have crashed in jungle and maybe have survivors...but time will eventually reveal its fate.....it cannot have simply disappeared..
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Idiotic Statement in Today's Public Talk
by piztjw in"some though say, 'but you need to be balanced.
you need to work, pay bills, provide for your family and so forth.
' but think about a bicycle.
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westiebilly11
exactly.....the tricycle illustration would be akin to the Trinity doctrine....so they must stick with a bicycle..!