Posts by Tina

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Revisions Website

by silentlambs in

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i have made a few additions to the website.

i am including the adjusted "about us" page changes below.

i thought it might be better to give more information.

Tina

Dear Sl,
Much appreciation to you and your family for continuing on regarding this issue. Silence is the enemy.....wishing you strength and courage always.Warm regards,tina

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nyc priest reveals confession

by orbison in

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interesting, a nyc priest has revealed a confession re:murder which has allowed the courts to appeal the outcome,,,all i can find at the moment,,,just happened today.

w

Tina

Hi Orbie!
If you find out more let us know OK? Has interesting implications...hugs,Tina

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Read God's Word the Holy Bible Daily

by Nicodemus in

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for decades now, those words have appeared atop one of the watchtower societys buildings in new york city.. that exhortation may never have been more needed by jehovahs people themselves than it is today.

recent posts have asked good questions regarding what can or will sustain individual jehovahs witnesses who do truly love god, but who may be disheartened by various things they have seen in the organization.. it is clear to me that many witnesses spend far more time reading the societys publications than gods word itself.

one reason sometimes given is that the preparation and research has already been done for you, thus making it easier.

Tina

Greetings,

So Lot had no part in impregnating his daughters? I failed to see the 'comforting' message when reading the story of Lot carefully and in its entirety.
I can't see how anyone can conveniently 'omit' this part of Lots saga.
Did Lots drunken stupor exonerate him from any responsibility here?
If he was the wise patriarch,why did allow this to happen? Why are the girls totally blamed and not he...
I find it despicable that even today rape and incest are blamed on 'being drunk.....etc' as if that relieves the man of his moral responsibility (but look at this great example to use).

I asked what was the moral imperative of this? ( The females at fault,right?) yeah yeah. Considering 'all scripture is inspired and beneficial for teaching blah blah blah.....
No thinking person can read this in its entirety and consider Lot a hero or any kind of exemplar. It shows Lot to be morally bankrupt.
This is how I read it. Tina

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Read God's Word the Holy Bible Daily

by Nicodemus in

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friends

for decades now, those words have appeared atop one of the watchtower societys buildings in new york city.. that exhortation may never have been more needed by jehovahs people themselves than it is today.

recent posts have asked good questions regarding what can or will sustain individual jehovahs witnesses who do truly love god, but who may be disheartened by various things they have seen in the organization.. it is clear to me that many witnesses spend far more time reading the societys publications than gods word itself.

one reason sometimes given is that the preparation and research has already been done for you, thus making it easier.

Tina

back to top...waiting for comment.T

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Read God's Word the Holy Bible Daily

by Nicodemus in

jw
friends

for decades now, those words have appeared atop one of the watchtower societys buildings in new york city.. that exhortation may never have been more needed by jehovahs people themselves than it is today.

recent posts have asked good questions regarding what can or will sustain individual jehovahs witnesses who do truly love god, but who may be disheartened by various things they have seen in the organization.. it is clear to me that many witnesses spend far more time reading the societys publications than gods word itself.

one reason sometimes given is that the preparation and research has already been done for you, thus making it easier.

Tina

Greetings,

A careful reading of the story of Lot.......19,31-38.
What is the moral imperative of incest? Tina

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The perfect JW honey trap

by mauddib in

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-i'm a jw who has been in the org his entire life.. -i never used a computer except at work to place customer orders.. -my wife buys me an 800mhz system from the neighborhood circuit city store as an anniversary gift.

says i can research my ministry school talks.

-i hook it up, it works (!!

Tina

GASP! Apostates? here? lol.........seriously,not a trap. Unlike the WTS you're free to come and go at will here.
Lots of nice people here....exchanging ideas,free thought! What a concept! Stick around,you just might learn something.

Oh btw,the word 'apostate' has no negative charge for most of us.....I wear the label proudly.Tina

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No Atheists in a Foxhole

by hippikon in

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ever heard the saying that there arent any atheists in a foxhole - i think that is nonsense atheists are born in foxholes

Tina

(((((((((hippi))))))))))))0
Now THAT makes sense.....Tina

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Change another's views -- or not?

by CPiolo in

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a short while ago, maximus and a few others were discussing the ethics of tying to influence another regarding their belief system.

many came down on the side of caution, if not downright abstention.

if a person lived in a vacuum, i might be inclined to agree.

Tina

(((((((((((cpiolo)))))))))))))Hi!

Determining if an individual might have a higher quality life would be the basis for challenging their belief system.Considering all the life choices affected by the wts we know their quality of life is pretty low.

Creating a favourable climate to present info is essential. This is a climate of nurturance.Help the individual(your wife) in this case see that she IS a choice maker. That she has the ability to make different life choices. That she doesnt have to remain passively at the mercy of such a corrupt and dysfunctional belief system.

Become a resource person, a networker for her regarding support. There are groups out there that cover dependency issues(wts). Also one on one therapy as a safe and neutral place while undergoing the emotional and psychological upheavels leaving may bring.
A therapist can also model new or better social skills that will help her adjust and re-connect to the world around her.

Reconnecting and using socialization skills are practiced by being involved in a volunteer group,maybe an evening class,something that hgolds her interest and involves relating to people again(sorry JW's dont count as normal socializers in my book)
She could learn specific coping,communication skills needed for family situations.
All these facets of recovery take time and effort,but well worth the journey.......as she gets to learn about herself and the world around her,she'll be too busy(hopefully) to fall for another religious trap....
Change is risky,but so is everything in life. In this case the benefit is a quality,full actualized free life.I personally cant think of any good reason unless one is so dysfunctional to need such a heavily structured enviornment to remain in any cult.
Wishing you and your family the best,Tina

Just some thoughts,Tina

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