Alec,
Welcome!
gorgia
ps - WingCommander that was a spectacular post!
hi there, as was suggested to me, i'm starting this thread to say hi to everyone.. my awakening began recently, after the new light on the 'slave'.
i felt it didn't add up and went to check and found out ttatt.
for a while i tried to find evidence of whether the wt might still be god's organization, i needn't say i couldn't.. i had already resigned as a ministerial servant and a pioneer, had already had several issues with the elders and did not put up with their nonsense for a long.
Alec,
Welcome!
gorgia
ps - WingCommander that was a spectacular post!
you guys don't know me, i'm new here.
i'm typing on an iphone (pardon any random weird iphone auto-spell corrections) and could walk home to get to my laptop but i might lose the courage to post what comes to my heart to share right now.
worse and more likely, i'll simply not be able to express what i felt right now... if i wait until i have a proper keyboard.
Welcome nibbled.
gorgia
i'm 19, and i'm still currently a jw.
i guess i'm a born-in, or whatever you guys call it.
i've had some serious issues with the faith at the moment, and sexuality is a huge part.
Magotan,
Everyone has posted such thoughtful, caring advice for you - so I shall only say, 'Welcome!'
x gorgia
i have always been intrigued about why we dream and recently signed up for a course on dream interpretation.
the course includes a great book written by sigmund freud.. this would have been oh soo taboo if i was still in the borg.
probably would have been df'd for it.. was wondering how many others out there have studied a subject or experimented with new ideas that "mother" would not have approved of since leaving the org, and what you learned from it?
lovelylil,
Good on you - that sounds very exciting - I would love to do a course like that.
Since leaving silly rules behind I've volunteered, I'm starting uni this year & on occasion even worn skirts that end ABOVE THE KNEE.
gorgia
"those worldy people are so lost" - utterence of any sort of familial hardship; divorce, ect.. .
(df'ed person is seen in a public setting) "they look so sad, they don't have jehovah's blessing".
how do you know if they're sad or not?
cptkirk, great post!
gorgia
i am interested in the answers for a new poll.
also, feel free to suggest other options, wording etc.agreed in full with the watchtower guidelinesagreed with shunning in general, but not for familywas stumbled by this practice but shunned as instructeddid not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people .
for me personally, i did not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people, even whilst at bethel.
jwfacts,
My cousin was df'd as a teenager; since then her mother has flip-flopped between total shunning & part-time shunning. When her grandchildren were born, my aunt would visit, when my cousin's marriage broke down, she visited - and every now and then, usually after a CO special talk or assembly, she would send my cousin a letter announcing her reinvigorated stance on shunning - after a while my cousin didn't even bother opening the envelopes.
This same aunt was df'd at one point, and promptly made contact with her daughter, even staying in her house during this time of personal crisis. Once she was reinstated, the status quo resumed.
gorgia
ps - you could also put as an option in the survey - disagreed and openly associated with df'd people
could all of you please visit my mother's funeral tribute page and say something genaricly nice with perhaps a reference to how happy you are that she found christ.
say nothing about the jws, but something that referernces that she accepted christ in the last two years.
the website is:.
Roberta804,
I have submitted a message of condolence for your mother. I send you a hug.
gorgia
forgiving one another.
why must we be willing to forgive?.
paragraph 18 = 0. .
Thank you Blondie,
I love your WTstudy posts.
gorgia
i'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.
i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.
some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..
Welcome Promitheas!
i just need to vent,you see i was a born in.it's taken me 20 years after fading from the org to finally get my mind free from the wt dogma.i was on the phone with my aunt today and the subject of my mother her older sister came up.now mind you i haven't spoken to my mother in a month or so after my daughter stayed the weekend at her house and she was being tag teamed about the hall and how i took a vow to jehovah and i'm a failure and i'll be destroyed at armagedon.this exchange upset my daughter so much that she was near the point of tears when she returned home and she hasnt spoken to my mother or father since.anyway back to the conversation with my aunt,she let it slip that my mother told her that she wished she had let the seamen that fertilized the egg that produced me had slid down her legnno bear in mind i can remember as a child running into her room playing and she would say to me as a 7 year old child "i wished i had left you in oblivion"this is one of many such saying my mother had for me......i wasn't a bad child i just wasn't allowed to do anything such as going outside going over a friends house....etc,i have struggled for years as to why this woman hates me so.i got baptized at 15 really as a way of pleasing them what the hell does a child know at 15??
?granted it took me some time to get myself together and put those hurtful comments in the past,but today when my aunt let it slip about what my mother has said about me it was like pulling a scap off of a wound.my wife always complains about how im emotionless and distance,this was done by me as a way of protecting myself.so i've decided and i hate to say this that my christian god fearing parents...are dead to me there is no way i can have a relationship with people that are so wicked and since she never wanted me anyway....it works out for the best thx i just needed to vent i felt like i was going to pop..
20YearFader,
I'm sorry about your mother. I thought jgnat's reply to you was lovely and very sensible; I hope it gave you a little comfort.
It seems you have worked very hard and patiently to come to a certain acceptance of how your mother conducts her life - please keep it up, your strength will inspire others - & I'm sure there are plenty of them out there - grown-up now, but, like us, still affected by parents who were stultified, numbed, emotionally crippled, by the jw cult.
gorgia