Posts by Rattigan350

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The Church's Biggest Lie

by ProdigalSon in

think you've sorted out the mess that christianity has become?.

ever wonder why the other 2/3 of the planet doesn't believe the utter nonsense of "resurrection"??.

chew on this, christians:.

It's not a lie. A lie is only when they know the other side is true. When one knows concrete facts and teaches against it. No one knows what happens after death, so any statement on that subject can not be considered a lie, it is merely speculation. Teaching speculation is not teaching a lie, it is teaching a theory.

It is like when JWs say that Christendom teaches lies such as hellfire and trinity. Well, hellfire and trinity are false, but teaching them are not lies because no one has seen God or the afterlife to know what happens. They are just different interpretations of sacred books. Different interpretations does not make it a lie.

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What is your religious belief now?

by jwfacts in

i have a new poll at jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/ as i am very interested to see what people have moved on to believe.

as this is considered sensitive by some, you can answer anonymously at the jwfacts.mobi/pollsarchive/, or answer on this thread.

this is what i have created in the list, but feel free to add comments, corrections, or options i have missed.. .

Rattigan350

Agnostic. God is irrelevant until he becomes relevant.

"If you are inactive/faded but not disfellowshipped, are you treated as if you were disfellowshipped?"

I treat others as if they are disfellowshipped, because I really don't care to waste time talking with them.

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First mention of "new light" may appear in July 15, 2013 Watchtower

by cedars in

a trusted source informs me that the "new light" about the faithful slave is to make its first printed appearance in the july 15th watchtower, which should be available for download online three weeks from now, on around april 15th.. i'm led to believe that the references to the new understanding are made in such a manner as to suggest the "new light" isn't that new at all, which suggests to me that little or no effort is being made to explain the doctrinal connotations.

my source and i are hoping to get a key paragraph posted at the earliest opportunity.

watch this space!.

Rattigan350

It is not new light. They just got tired of beating around the bush to please the other anointed and ones who like explanations from the Bible. The Board of directors and then the governing body have always been the FDS.

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What's the most extreme thing you ever did to apply Matt 6:33?

by Julia Orwell in

as it's conflated with witnessing, meetings and so forth...what's the most extreme sacrifice you made for those things?

for me it was my mental health and maybe a career in something cooler than being an office fungus.. you?.

Rattigan350

I agree with Amelia Ashton, but otherwise I haven't done anything to apply it because I don't believe that one can seek a kingdom that does not exist. In contrast to people who, before an election, go out and campaign, they know when the start date is of the government. But how does one campaign for something vague.

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I don't get it... (re: Memorial)

by ilikecheese in

why do jws celebrate jesus dying rather than his resurrection?

i was talking to my boyfriend about this last week, and he said, "it's way more important that he died.

" i kind of thought the whole coming back to life thing was a bigger deal, but whatevs.. .

Rattigan350

Why do JWs celebrate Jesus dying rather than his resurrection?

Because that is how he said to do it. But it really is not a celebration but a continuance of the passover in how the angel of death passes over because of the shed blood.

The Memorial, held annually, was to be done in "remembrance" of Christ until he returned.

That part about his returning is what Paul added. He added that because when the 144,000 are in heaven (which is what is meant by his return), then it will no longer be necessary (well, it is not necessary now, but it won't have any meaning then). Some make the mistake of asking why it is celebrated after 1914. Jesus didn't return in 1914. He became king then. He returned to his apostles when he resurrected them.

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Jehovah generously provides?

by Rattigan350 in

the june 15 2013 w pg 13, para 6&7 has an experience of a pioneer that needed $66 to pay her rent the next day.

she prayed and went to work at her job as a waitress.

when she finished her shift she had received a total of $66 in tips.

Rattigan350

Thanks for the $66 belongs to those giving tips or to the person working her butt off to earn the tips

I like what Bart Simpson says about prayer: I worked for it and earned the money to buy it, why thank God for it.

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Jehovah generously provides?

by Rattigan350 in

the june 15 2013 w pg 13, para 6&7 has an experience of a pioneer that needed $66 to pay her rent the next day.

she prayed and went to work at her job as a waitress.

when she finished her shift she had received a total of $66 in tips.

Rattigan350

the June 15 2013 W pg 13, para 6&7 has an experience of a pioneer that needed $66 to pay her rent the next day. She prayed and went to work at her job as a waitress. When she finished her shift she had received a total of $66 in tips. The text then said 'Nancy is convinced that Jehovah generously provided exactly what she needed'.

Generous means "liberal in giving, marked by abundance or ample proportions"

That does not sound liberal or abundance. If she needed $66, generous would be $660 or $6600 dollars or more.

Malachi 1 says Bring all the tenth parts+ into the storehouse, that there may come to be food in my house;+ and test me out, please, in this respect,”+ Jehovah of armies has said, “whether I shall not open to YOU people the floodgates of the heavens+ and actually empty out upon YOU a blessing until there is no more want"

That is what generous is. What about the next month or for other needs?

Back in the days when Israel crossed the Red Sea, that news traveled around of his great works. And also at the time of Rahab. But now we have $66 dollars. What happened to the the way of things of old? I'm not saying he would help people win lotto, as that would mean that he would be helping others lose. But I would expect bigger things from a generous provision.

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if the rapture started now?

by fakesmile in

since the majority would be "left behind", i wonder.

clearly the hard workers who neglected "spiritual things" to persue a career in the science field or just working with the hands will be of the many left.

what would this world be like if all fundies just dissappeared.

Rattigan350

There is no rapture. Simple as that.

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Outsourcing of printing?

by Lynnie in

i heard through the grapevine this weekend that my second cousin and her husband made a trip to india to investigate possible outsourcing of printed docs for the wtbts.

he is a uber bethelite in the purchasing dept and my cousin is a good bethelite wife.

they were living in brooklyn but have been moved up to wallkill in the last few months.

Rattigan350

When are they going to outsource congress?

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A double life

by raindrops in

jw
friends

i am usually a lurker here.

i was disfellowshipped about 3 years ago.

my relationship with my family has never been the same.

Rattigan350

",I want to celebrate holidays "

Why? You want to be an idiot brainless follower, not of the WTS, but of the holiday creators?

Sheesh.