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  When You Were A JW---What "Motivated" You To "Do More"?

  by minimus in

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  most witnesses that i knew of were spurred on by hearing a talk designed to make them feel guilty over their not doing enough.

  co's visits, assemblies and conventions motivated a few to pioneer, "reach out", etc......soon after the talks, usually, in less than a month, everyone went right back to slacking again.. did you feel "motivated" due to guilt when you were an active witness?.

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  So the cute sisters would like me.

  Thus when I got married, what's the point of doing more?
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  New buzz phrase

  by Rattigan350 in

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  it seems the new buzz phrase at the dc that they have been saying more and more lately is that jehovah protects one's spiritual health and that is what is more important that physical or financial health.. spiritual health.

  as if that is something that is really quantifiable.

  he protects it but we have no proof or evidence.. what is spiritual health?

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  It seems the new buzz phrase at the DC that they have been saying more and more lately is that Jehovah protects one's spiritual health and that is what is more important that physical or financial health.

  Spiritual health. As if that is something that is really quantifiable. He protects it but we have no proof or evidence.

  What is spiritual health? We love the meetings, FS and everything else. He protects that. Like lame.
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  144,000 virgins?

  by zound in

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  Since the high priest can only marry a virgin. the 144,000 being the bride of Christ. Jesus as the high priest can only marry a virgin, so the 144, 000 as the bride would be a virgin.

  Remember that you don't have to question everything doctrinally. The problem with the WTS is not the doctrines, it is the organizational control.
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  Subtle wording in today's study article (3/15/13 WT)

  by leaving_quietly in

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  w13 3/15 p. 28 par.

  "first, we must proclaim that name to others, recognizing that only those who 'call on the name of jehovah will be saved.

  ' (rom.

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  Why does it even matter what Paul wrote? As if he is some kind of authority on salvation and religion?

  Paul was not a prophet. He taught nothing new. He was a historian of Israel.
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  Why WT translates Parousia as "Presence" and not "Coming" (Matt. 24:3)?

  by ProfCNJ in

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  wt had translated "parousia" as presence instead of "coming".

  it has explained time and again that in 1914, jesus came invisibly and since then, we are living in the last days under his invisible presence.. now i was a bit puzzled if that would really be the appropriate translation after reading matthew 28:19, 20.. 19 "therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit,20and teaching them to obey everything i have commanded you.

  and surely i am with you always, to the very end of the age.".

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  Because the Greek word means presence and not coming.

  And they would not ask Jesus what would be the sign of his coming as they would not need to if he was coming visibly. They could just see him.

  They knew that Jesus does not come back to earth. No reason to. But people think that they are so important that they want Jesus to come here with them. That is about as arrogant as their believing that they go to heaven to be with Jesus.

  "after reading Matthew 28:19, 20." Are you sure that Matt 28:19 is proper considering that 1 John 5:7 added the trinitarian formula. How can one know that Matt 28:19 is correct in that manner?
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  Another Newbie

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  i recently came to the realization that the organization is corrupt and is false.

  my story is similar to many i think.

  i was raised in the religion, pioneered and served as an elder for a number of years.

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  I became disillusioned and faded out of sheer boredom. The meetings, books, magazines are just sales pitches for the organization. The purpose of all of that is to get more into the organzation. And added to that is guilt by everyone is so afraid of displeasing God. God is more concerned about a person placing a buck on a lottery ticket to where the person will be punished than about F5 tornadoes destroying towns. The GB decides what pleases or displeases God and we have to do what they say to please God.

  Not to mention the people who will be mean to you because their loyalty is to the FDS not to humanity.
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  What about your vow to Jehovah?

  by a watcher in

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  did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

  why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

  why were you serving jehovah at all?

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  What about Jehovah's vow to us?
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  Valedictorian Rips Up Preapproved Speech, Recites Prayer Instead

  by Sam Whiskey in

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  really proud of this young man for his speech.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nir4zbz18e.

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  http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/valedictorian-rips-preapproved-speech-recites-prayer-instead-172941933.html.

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  There are about 34,000 different Christian groups in the world since AD 30. This is according to the World Christian Encyclopedia published in 2001. 1,200 different Christian denominations exist in the United States alone. Some groups classify Christianity into 8 meta-groups, namely Roman Catholicism (the largest), Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy and Assyrian Churches, Protestantism, Restorationism, Anglican Communicants, Pentecostal, and others.

  Christianity has become so commoditized that one can't tell the difference between them. It is supposed to be one group and no differences between them.

  And no need for a FDS to keep everyone united and not divided.
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  Valedictorian Rips Up Preapproved Speech, Recites Prayer Instead

  by Sam Whiskey in

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  really proud of this young man for his speech.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nir4zbz18e.

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  http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/valedictorian-rips-preapproved-speech-recites-prayer-instead-172941933.html.

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  Terrible that the religious zealots are out there. He is no better than a Fundie Islamic.

  That is not a prayer if it is recited. I doubt he even knows what it means.

  Terrible to see a high school valedictorian at that, wearing a beard. They are still kids, children. They ought to look like children, not Islamists.

  The whole business of their removing God from schools is a crock. Teachers and admins don't need to be bringing religion in schools except as a class teaching all religion. Children always have the right to do their religious things at school.
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  Since Great Crowd has no mediator

  by sosoconfused in

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  i am thinking that maybe i missed this discussion or something.

  now for years in the org i never ever paid attention to the article that says jesus is the mediator for the 144000 alone.

  yesterday talking to my 70+ year old dad he got violently angry with me and threw his cane at me because he said i was a liar.. .

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  "It's about having a personal relationship with Jesus and knowing that through his sacrifice he also plays a major role in our day to day communique with God. "

  Why would anyone want a personal relationship with Jesus? He is the mediator bringing one to Jehovah God.

  Why have the relationship with the mediator when the purpose is to have the relationship with Jehovah God?