warning: i am about to discuss a rather delicate subject.
if the words menstruation or period gross you out, please stop reading now.. i am going to attempt to keep names out of this discussion, as my thoughts are directed to the general population, not one individual.
i am fairly certain, however, that someone may take this personally and react with anger and insults.
nice thoughts, wasa. my wife always tells me that i am lucky, because while she is only a little "off" for a few days out of the month, i am a moody s.o.b. all month long! in my book, any woman that can put up with me deserves some extra slack and compassion when she needs it.
as for accusing women of not being capable during those few days, someone who would do that needs to deflate their ego a tad, and listen quite a bit more to the women in their life, IMO. thanks for sharing, wasa.-nate
at this late, middle stage of my life, i've started wondering, now that i know what i know, about the things in my life that i "lived" with.
having been raised all my life in the "borg" i have known nothing else.
when questions began forming years ago, it started me thinking.
interesting question, zev. i was raised in the cult, walked away at 22, now i'm 27. it was a very hard at first, now it's getting easier. i'm living life without the shackles of guilt and shame, and i feel stronger spiritually then i ever did as a jw. my immediate family is still immersed in the cult, and that causes situations that aren't very fun, but i just keep trying to keep on being a good son and brother, so that the only compaints they can have with me are jw-related. it is amazing what a mind-f#%k growing up a witness can be, though. one thing that helps so much is having a wife who grew up like i did, and left the org. having your mate understand that part of you intimately is really helpful, sometimes.-nate
how many on this board are: a) christains--not a jw b) jehovah's witnesses c) do not believe in god d) have a belief in god but just not active in anything right now.
i'm new to the board and was curious as to everyone's standing.
i'm 30, a christain, i left the jws 3 years ago (after being in it for 21 years) to follow jesus and heard of, among other good things, this great thing called: grace!
hi vienna, welcome to the board. i walked away from the jw cong. 5 years ago and have been d/f'ed for almost 2 years. i'm agnostic.-nate
you are not a jehovah witness, are you?
are you a jehovah witness?.
and it's not "jehovah witness.
too funny, comf. the sad thing is, even with the errors, he could be one of 5 million active wittnesses.-nate(still laughing)
well, folks.
i just had a minor epiphany.
its a wonder it never dawned on me before, because it should have been so obvious.. we can forget about doing any more research or any more exegesis.
farkel-you have outdone yourself!!!-nate
in every news group, discussion board and chat room there seems to be a few individuals that never seem to completely grasp the art of thinking.
their need to disrupt and irritate reach superstar status in the realm of stupidity.
the desire for attention and recognition though sophomoric post's and chat room spamming becomes as much a part of the entire internet experience as the valuable and useful contributions of others.
yadirf-your intellect is simply astounding! and your sense of humor-it's perfection! might want to loosen your tie, bud, you could use the oxygen.-nate
hi guys...i just wanted to share with you all something that happened over the weekend, that i found really weird.. on saturday i went to a cousins wedding.....we are quite a large extended family, not jw's(only my mom is a witness), so it was nice to be with the family on such special occasions.. throughout the evening i sat down with a cousins husband, who i hadn't seen for about two years.
we had a pint and he decided to get out a pack of cigars.
now these cigars were big fat ones (you know the cuban type)...he lit up.
dig-i think your actions were totally understandable. i smoke(yes i know it's stupid, prisca-like francoise, it's addiction i've been trying to cut loose) and my parents know that i smoke(they are jws). the thing is, smoking really bothers my parents, no matter who is doing it. because of that, i don't smoke in front of them, it's because i respect them, not because of jw ideals. when i am at a family function for an extended period, i still smoke, i just find a place to do it where i am not throwing it in their face. i think you were just being a thoughtful son, dig.-nate
i have one question to ask my local jw's, be they on the body, or be they higher up in the heirarchy.. it is this... .
watchtower literature tells me over and over again, that as a parent, i have to make my children feel that they can "freely speak" about whatever is troubling them.
the question is, at what age i should make them stop feeling this way, and help them to see the need to shut up, sit down, and quit rocking the boat.
great topic! along the same lines, many jw kids learn how not to get caught, instead of developing a conscience that they actually can feel good about. the reality is, teenagers are going to be teenagers, and while parents should try to impress upon their children the rules they want them to live by, guilt is not the best way to achieve this, imo. is the average teen really going to believe that speeding will make god angry at them? i think jw parents would have more luck differentiating between morality and "house rules", instead of blending the two together in a way most teens just won't buy. sorry to get off your topic, bexaminer, it got me thinking.-nate
well i know this isn't like my usual posts but bear with me.
i know there are blowups on this board, and i guess not everyone gets a long 100%, 100% of the time, but we all have a bond that keeps bringing us back--pain.
we here have all suffered at the hands a merciless cult, and i know many have sufferd more then the rest of us can ever comprehend.. i miss my family and friends, somedays it's almost more then i can bear, but get by.
those were really nice thoughts, venice. i know what those sad days are like. even when things are going good, sometimes something happens that brings you right back down. you sound like you are staying positive, though, and that is commendable. hope you have a nice evening.-nate:)
for some reason i can't post on the original topic about the fds on why the watchtower is doomed thread.
so i just started a new post.
as regards af's long-winded post on that thread, it is obvious to me that you don't know what you are talking about, and that you are merely trying to obfuscate the issue with this enormously long post.
yadirf-i've been reading your posts and i'm really amazed. i've encountered men(boys, really) like you many times out in the real world, the type of person who only talks big when they have a bunch of friends around to back them up. is the computer your "bunch of friends"? i would say probably so. you are what is commonly refered to as a "shit-talker"(sorry, simon). i would bet that you would never have the huevos to speak to another man in the way that you have spoken to many on this thread in a face-to-face situation. calling wasa hormonal for speaking her mind was weak, plain and simple. picking on my best friend riz is not the brightest thing you could do, i hope for your sake that we never meet in person. lets just say i don't quite have a "soft spot" for spineless little men like yourself. are you trying to make yourself appear very small? you are doing well. -nate
