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My decision about "family shunning"

by Gojira_101 in

since i've been off work this week because of spring break, i've really been missing my grandma.

when i have left wt (i'm fading and april will be 6 months) and i told her about january, she has been shunning me.

i told myself "i will respect her wishes/decision..etc" this morning i woke up and said "to hell with shunning!

Gojira_101

Thank you Ambersun for the idea, I was thinking of doing that also. And also I was going to give her some info about how happy we all are...nothing to in your face, but you can still be happy outside of WT.

Cobaltcupcake: I'm glad you still let her know you are alive. And it is hard when you have a hard nose in the family who monitors everything. I think with my grandma, it's my aunt who is doing most of the shunning, but since grandma lives with her, grandma can't do anything on her own.

I'll see how it goes, I'm going to pick up a card in the next day or so.

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Any "inappropriate" or "saucy" conversations out in Field Service car groups???

by Gojira_101 in

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i thought of one that happened to me, i think i was 16 and regular pioneering at the time.

i was in fs with my friend, i think she had to be about 18, and we were in a van with older married sisters, my friend and i were the only single ones.

there were 6 of us in this van and my friend and i of course were forced to sit in the back (meaning we couldn't escape by jumping out of a moving van), anyway, the conversation turned to discussing molestation.. the two oldest sisters sitting in the front then started going into detail about how they had been molested, and it wasn't just "i was molested by..." no they went into detail.. i was shocked!

Gojira_101

Thank you all for the comments, right after I posted this I realized I ran out of posts and then I'm been working so haven't had a chance to get on here.

@ d: I've heard many, many off color or dirty jokes out in service, I guess I was always in the wrong car groups...or I should say the right ones

@ Hawk (A.K.A mom): I don't remember that. LOL. It doesn't surprise me though because I remember some of those sex starved sisters in our old hall.

@ Gypsy: Why would that surprise you if it was my dad? I can say he's not the "shy" type. He can be very blunt an too honest with people sometimes....I remember just before my husband and I got married my dad pulls my future husband aside to make sure his parents had "the talk" with him about um..being with an "innocent" girl. I husband still talks about that even today!!!!

@ Think about it: You know what that is an interesting point to bring up. If the angels are directing the work, then why would they allow these types of conversations to go on, and also, why would they direct the preaching work if all the car group is talking about perverted things? That's a very good point!

Maybe they just stick their fingers in their ears and say, "la,la,la,la,la". Love it!

@ Cobaltcupcake: I think the older generations knew to keep certain things private. The younger ones though, some of the things they say could make a hooker blush.

@ therevealer: OMG are you serious? I can just imagine the person who takes care of the flowers "Honey, do you know why all my flowers in this area are yellow/dead?" "No i sure don't, made it's bugs!" hahahahahahaha wow. I know a few times working out in the rural area's the nearest bathroom is 20 miles away, we would go out into the woods to take care of business, but not at someones house!

@ finally awake: Even though the conversation wasn't explicit, it still would not be right to have that kind of conversation during "the lord's time" when you are supposed to be focused on spiritual things. That's interesting.

@ Dismissing servant: I think everyone has one of those stories. I went to a door where the guy was in his whitey tighties and let's just say something was peaking out. I remember my grandma telling me one time a guy opened the door completely naked and she just pointed at his junk and started laughing.

@ Clearpoision: What happens in the car stays in the car! Like it!

@Bella15: Back-door sex. I got your meaning! But you are right, who tells a 16 year old that stuff?

Interesting comments. It's amazing to me, how I even survived being in this cult. I just thought of a nauthy thing a car group did one time, and yes I was apart of it. I think I'm going to start a new topic on it. It's funny because out of the 4 of us in the car group only one got into trouble.

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Any "inappropriate" or "saucy" conversations out in Field Service car groups???

by Gojira_101 in

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friends

i thought of one that happened to me, i think i was 16 and regular pioneering at the time.

i was in fs with my friend, i think she had to be about 18, and we were in a van with older married sisters, my friend and i were the only single ones.

there were 6 of us in this van and my friend and i of course were forced to sit in the back (meaning we couldn't escape by jumping out of a moving van), anyway, the conversation turned to discussing molestation.. the two oldest sisters sitting in the front then started going into detail about how they had been molested, and it wasn't just "i was molested by..." no they went into detail.. i was shocked!

Gojira_101

I thought of one that happened to me, I think I was 16 and regular pioneering at the time. I was in FS with my friend, I think she had to be about 18, and we were in a van with older married sisters, my friend and I were the only single ones. There were 6 of us in this van and my friend and I of course were forced to sit in the back (meaning we couldn't escape by jumping out of a moving van), anyway, the conversation turned to discussing molestation.

The two oldest sisters sitting in the front then started going into DETAIL about how they had been molested, and it wasn't just "I was molested by..." No they went into DETAIL.

I was shocked! This was not a good topic to be discussing in FS and especially since you had for sure one minor in the car.

I also remember one time with a car group of sisters talking or should I same comparing the size of their husbands "junk" (Here in the states "junk" refers to a person's private parts).

Has anyone else experienced this, I know you have, but care to share it? Any topic will do it doesn't have to be only about the things I already mentioned :)

G

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Still in with kids

by thinking_ability in

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Gojira_101

Welcome Thinking and Deus. I love the fact we are getting so many newbies!

Thinking, I really do feel for you because you are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I know your kids are still young but don't think that JW indoctrination can't start now or at a very young age. I was a born in 3rd generation also, and for me as a young child, I was scared to death of those pictures in the Revelation book, and even as a small kid I had terrible dreams about Armageddon and me dying because I wasn't one of the chosen ones to survive. Even now that I have become inactive and know TTATT (The truth about the truth) and I'm almost 30, There are times when I start having panic attacks and straight up dread and fear of Armageddon. It will be very hard to combat these kids with your kids because they are exposed to it even right now, and it will affect them. Plus your family will be indoctrination them anytime they are around your kids.

You might want to try talking to your husband to feel him out, because my husband I thought still believed in WT whole heartily, but come to find out he had been having doubts for years and it really didn't take much to show him TTATT, and he woke up. Since we had been married, we weren't really that regular in our meeting attendance and we never went in service and I think because of that, not having the constant indoctrination, helped both of us to awaken and learn TTATT.

I still have family who are very active JW and even when they found out I was fading and no longer going to meetings and service, they are shunning me like I was DA'd or Df'd, I had to cut all ties to all of them (other family and friends) just to save my family (My parents left about the same time as my husband and I) and myself because I could no longer stomach the lies WT fed me. It hurts, yes but remember what Jesus said, he came to set the world on fire and he would cause fathers to turn on son's and mothers against daughters, I left WT because I realized they are not following Jesus anymore, and for my own salvation I have to be a follow of Christ, and my family won't even listen to me to when I try to help bring them to Christ, now I know what Jesus meant about separating families, THIS is what he was talking about. I'm okay with it now, but it's still hard because I lost my grandma who was very important to me, and she is follow WT and not Jesus.

Hang in there and don't lose faith in God or his Son. Pray to them for guidance and they will help you.

G

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My husband MISSED the meeting today! Unheard of!

by Julia Orwell in

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he decided to take me somewhere nice in the country for a day instead, and when he suggested it last night i was amazed that he would have even thought of missing the meeting!

he was one of those guys who only missed a meeting, literally, if he had a spinal injury and couldn't move!.

but, i've been sharing a little of the ttatt with him, teensy tiny bits that i can substantiate from the bible or other reputable sources.

Gojira_101

Julia pay no attention to the kooks on here. There are some on here who are still very much active JW's who haven't awakened yet...Sometimes the best thing to do is just ignore them and not even respond.

Or there are Trolls on here who say things to invoke responses to fulfill some need for argument. I'd say that person is a troll.

I'm so happy your husband missed a meeting to spend time with you and he needed time away. This is a good sign, and maybe with how the elders have been treating you he is starting to feel there is no love in the org. and now he might be starting to awaken. I hope and I have praying for you and your hubby. The best thing you can do is still be a supportive wife and love him to death, so he can see where true love is, it's not with the org. it's with you.

I hope things continue on with you helping your husband to awaken. I hope he gets the job, encourage him to take it! Especially if it means he misses some meetings.

G

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The perplexing conundrum 607 b.c.e condensed down to ONE SIMPLE FACT

by Brother of the Hawk in

i was encouraged to post this thought, so here it is.. i recently finished reading "the gentile times reconsidered" by bro.

carl olof jonsson, ( third edition).

phew!!

Gojira_101

Wait if Lars is the Christ, then that is why there has been an epic fail on the "end times" and why Wt and everyone else can't predict Jesus CHRIST's return...he's to busy on this forum and not doing his job.

Lars stop arguing with everyone and trying to make your point....since you are Jesus Christ, YOU HAVE A JOB TO DO, so quit farting around on here with us lowly humans and get to work bringing about your second coming. You know more than half of this planet it waiting for you to come back. Don't keep us waiting.

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Are the Witnesses Really Losing Their Young People?

by What Now? in

that article about jehovah's witnesses having the lowest retention rate for born ins keeps popping up every now again ... i'm just curious if any of you have noticed that this is actually the case.

in the congregation that i grew up in, i'm going to say that 95% of the young people in their teens to mid twenties are either regular pioneering, regular auxiliary pioneering, serving in foreign language congregations or where the need is greater.

both of my younger sisters are regular pioneers - and the young people in their hall even organize 8 pm to midnight service on friday nights of their own accord.

Gojira_101

Sorry I haven't read all the comments yet, and hopefully I'm not repeating anyone else, but growing up as a JW and then in my early 20's I did a count of all the "kids" I grew up with who were still in "the Truth" and I was still very much active as a JW at the time....anyway, out of the 20 something kids I grew up with, it was just me and one other person who were still in "the Truth," LOL I guess now it's just that one person since I have recently "left"

I also know in my late teens my family and I moved to a different cong. and out of about 10 around my age group, they ALL are no longer JW's.

I'd say it might just depend on your hall, but I do know a lot of people who leave once they are in their teens. I recently reconnected with one of those I grew up with who left when she was 16 and she told me "I knew it was a cult even at 16, that's why I left and did what I did to get away from it" (She had a problem with drugs in her younger years, that is what she was referring to). With anything it's always the unknown and the it depends as to why kids leave or not.

I'm hoping my nephew when he hits his teen years realizes what really is behind WT. It's funny because he has always been super pro-WT and wanted to get baptized at age 8 and he even went through the questions and the elders said no (thank God), and it's been two years now and he hasn't eve talked about it at all. I'm hoping he won't!

Great post!

G

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The perplexing conundrum 607 b.c.e condensed down to ONE SIMPLE FACT

by Brother of the Hawk in

i was encouraged to post this thought, so here it is.. i recently finished reading "the gentile times reconsidered" by bro.

carl olof jonsson, ( third edition).

phew!!

Gojira_101

One thing here. I thought we are only allowed 10 posts in a 24 hour span. How can Lars have 15 posts in a 19 hour time span?

Plus I thought hijacking someone's post was against the forum rules? UM....I have no idea what you all are even talking about. This is so far off topic from the original post.

This isn't a good first impression for my dad, because he is disgusted because he was trying to HELP!!!!!! and this is what happens to his second post. He has a lot more good points to bring out to try and help you people on reaching your friends and family....I know him, he's not going to help if this is what happens. And this forum will lose a very intelligent man, and I'm not just saying this because he's my father, but because he can actually think things through and reason.

As far as I'm concerned Lars is acting like the typical JW trying to scream his point....here's a suggestion....ignore Lars, because he's just going to keep on saying he's right and have the last word, like typical JW do and WE ALL KNOW how right they are.

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Circuit Oversears treated like gods...did this happen in your Hall!!!

by Witness 007 in

brothers would full on laugh at the c.o's lame jokes.

fight over who gets him for dinner where no expense would be speared..."oh they dont eat flour, sugars or milk products...".

Gojira_101

One CO when he was leaving the circuit, the Cong. threw him and his wife a huge going away party, they rent this huge community center type building, it was ridiculous and you wouldn't believe all the money the JW's were giving them. It made me sick!!!!!

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An offer from the Governing Body

by irondork in

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the governing body took us along to an unusually high mountain, and showed us all the friends and family members that had been ripped away and they said to us.... .

all these people we will give back to you if you fall down and do an act of worship to us.

Gojira_101

Good lord! I never even thought of that! That is exactly what they are doing!

Wait did anyone else notice that Geoffrey Jackson and Mark Sanderson are the same person? WTF? Pretty soon there will just be cardboard cutouts sitting in Brooklyn around the GB table. But seriously do think they are related? Like an illegitimate son and father?

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