today was one of the hardest days i've had yet since leaving jw.
i was barely able to work, and i have a knot in my stomach.. i look at the world situation and i feel so hopeless and helpless.
knowing there are millions of people outside of the u.s. that, if you were to put a button in front of them that had a label below it that said "kill every man woman and child in the u.s.a." that they wouldn't even hesitate to press it.. i wonder where it will end.
"How long can the U.S. hold off the barbarians at the gate? It seems like the pattern of history is, great civilizations rise, then start to rot internally, and eventually are destroyed by barbaric forces from outside."
Do you mean like when England was a "great civilization" and the barbarians destroyed it...U.S.
Read history more carefully.
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in which part of the planet are you?
i'm in the sf bay area, ca, u.s.a. i have been there for 17 years.. how about you?
San Diego - california.
in know_you's reply to wasasister he said, "...in reality most men are full of shit - and i mean that seriously.... what a timely remark!
no need for me to go into experiences.
ok ladies, now is a good time for you to step up to the plate and swing the bat.. .
If most men are full of CRAP who is wiping them...hmmm women?
you can listen to an mp3 of bob & amy gray's personal story of why they left the watchtower.
they gave this talk last year at the annual witnesses now for jesus convention.
by the way, the convention is this weekend in pa. check our support page for details including a list of speakers.. anyway, the link to bob & amy's testimony is http://www.towertotruth.net/audio.htm.
There is only one true religion, in every sense of the imagination. And that's my religion.
i haven't posted in a while... been very busy lately.
i am glad to be back though, i started reading the posts right away, and immediately felt comfort for how you guys are feeling, knowing i feel the same way.
not many of you know my story.... but for a quick run down... i'm a disf'd jw, for about 11 yrs now, i'm 28, disf'd at the tender age of 17... my mother and sister are still in the org... they only talk to me when they want to, it doesn't have to be an important event, life or death or anything.
Friends are chosen and families are inherited. All members of my family are JWs.
I am not dfd but have been fading for two years. In the long term i think it is better to keep that line
of civility open between family members. Choose your battles very carefully. Make sure you are not
rebelling against yourself.
george bush took advantage of your fears of 'big government' to get into office.... ...so are the democrats proponents of 'big government'?
do they love in-your-face politics?
do they want to give all of your hard-earned money away to good-for-nothing slobs?.
What comes to mind?
Clinton- monica lewinsky, linda trip, impeachment, cheating
Bush-iraq, soon there will be war, bad economy, Middle East mess, Venezuela mess, afghanistan, Enron, World com
I would choose Clinton's soap opera anytime rather than Bush's; which is personally affecting me, my family and my friends.
Those were the good old days!!!!!!
Edited by - Simon on 25 September 2002 10:43:7
was there ever anything positive from being a witness?
could you say that because you were a witness at least......or was it all negative?
Your question reminds me of a friend who asked if there was anything i learned because of growing up (part of my childhood) in war torn country. YES!!!! Positive and negative. Bust still, I don't wish people to live in a war torn country. So your question is all too inclusive.
please post your experiences here for any lurkers to read.
when i was a teenager, there was a young lady early 20's who had moved into our cong.
she had a newborn son and had just married her worldly boyfriend, the father of the baby.
Hopefully one day I will post my experience (i am still fading-three years now)...until then
To all of you who posted..thanx! thanx! and thanx! It has been eye opener
i got to thinking about this at work a couple of nights ago.. a news story said that the two jw's killed weren't (apparently) proselytizing in the phillipines, which is described as a heavily muslim nation.
though they were found with avon products, avon said the two were neither employees nor representatives.. now, why would two jw's be in a heavily muslim land, possibly pretending to be something they're not?
were they just lugging the stuff from place to place for someone as a favor?.
"I got to thinking about this at work a couple of nights ago."
Spies ??hmmm..sometimes it is better not to think. I will apply my own advise.
if you had so much money that you didn't have to work, how would you spend your time?
i will be back later to see what you have to say.
i am going to bed, having been up after my bed time.
I was the Bill Gates of spiritual invention.
I was the Donald Trump of spiritual ruthlessnes.
I was the Warren Buffet of old spiritual wealth.
Until I realized my "rich" was Monopoly money.
Oh well!
