the seventh day adventists are cousins of the watch tower religion.
i went to their web site at http://www.adventist.org/beliefs/main_stat41.html to see what they say about various topics.
the adventists, like jehovah's witnesses, believe in a new earth, a paradise, etc.
Amazing
4. Help ministers and lay leaders to recognize the warning signs of child sexual abuse and know how to respond appropriately when abuse is suspected or a child reports being sexually abused.
i thought this might be looked at twice
"when abuse is suspected" (not when abuse is known)
"a child reports" (sinlular)
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i have gotten a little mean in my old age.
my sister-in-law is a born again church of god life time member and sometimes is a little dogmatic.
i love to point out fallacies in her religious thinking.. this might have been a little unfeeling on my part but she was talking to my wife about a tragic happening in her life 26 years ago.
rexb13,
the thing is, to her, her dead kid is still alive in heven as job's kids are.
the WT thinking would not be her thinking. to her it is the same. she would be doublely blessed. as job was.
filling the voide left buy loss in your life does help people overcome there grief. but telling them that when the loss is still so fresh is not helpful and may be hertful.
"children are under no accountability"
i think this is an interesting statement. could you tell me your reasoning when you came to this conclusion? i have gone back and forth on it my self.
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after i came home last night i sat down to have dinner when five minutes later i received a phone call.
i did not picked up the phone.
then it rang again and refuse to answer it so i let the answering machine handle it.
Exodus,
there was a blind man who had the christ spit in his eye.
do you remember what happend to that man when his eyes were opened?
do you remember how he was treated by "god's organization"?
once you were blind and now you see. now it is time to witness.
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hello to all today:.
just reading in the book of isaiah 55-....and came across chapter 58. .
wow!
amen
well, just got back from a big talk with my parents.
i finally let them in on the fact that i question the society.
(dad is an elder and mother has been in it for 67 years since birth.
Mrmoe,
it might not be a bad idea to tape any meetings. your dad said 1975 was a prophacy and was false. this can get him DF too. thay will meet you to get leverage over you. you can get your own leverage.
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i'm new to this discussion board, so this may have been covered before.
i was raised in a jw family,(although i have been out for over 20 years) my mom and step-father are staunch believers.
being good jw's, they are against all "pagan" holidays, yet my mom took advantage of the boxing day sales, and my step-father accepted his christmas bonuses.
one of the characteristics of a cult is the manipulation of language. by changing the definition of words the cult can justify any action.
JW's like many cultists are very comfortable doing this themselves, after all how can his employees be offended buy a "year end dance". if thay said anything about the words not changing the nature of the dance thay could be seen as a threat to the WT since the WT does the same thing.
i wonder who was sopken to by the elders it this kind of thing came up? the boss who goes "the year end dance" or the JW worker who questions it.
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justice #17 dfing by phone .
the telephone can be so useful, yet in some ways so cold and impersonal.
i wonder how the sister in the following account must have felt when she was df'd by phone: .
cults spy------------------------ cults suck
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but just what is soundness of mind?
how do we get soundness of mind?
once we get it ,how do we keep soundness of mind?
Do you like to go on trips? Well, most of us do don't we? This evening we're going to take an imaginary train ride. And we are going to go on a very breathtaking train ride, in fact we are going to go through some of the highest mountains that exist. And one thing about this train ride, is that this is a trip that you’ve taken many times before. And you especially enjoy the part where the train goes over one of the highest passes because the panoramic view is just breathtaking. But your favorite part of the trip is when the train goes over what is called Mile High Trestle Bridge. Now having been on this trip before you notice something.Normally when the train approaches the Mile High Trestle Bridge it slows to just a crawl.
But for some reason this time the train is actually speeding up and you are a little bit concerned and just about that time the conductor comes walking through and you ask him "Is there something wrong?" And he says, "Well, yes as a matter of fact there is. You see the brakes have gone completely out on the train and in addition to that the engineer has gone completely mad. (Bro. Moore Said this in a very calm voice which made it even more funny) He has stuck the throttle on full speed ahead and he has locked himself in the engineers compartment." And you are thinking: What could be worse than that? And then he says, "And besides that, there is a rail out on the bridge." But he adds, "Don't worry, because there is plenty of free food and drink in the club car for all."(lots of laughter) Now if you can imagine the irony of that scene, you can begin to imagine this world as it is under the god of chaos, Satan the Devil.
Yes Satan's system of things is like a train that is out of control and it is running for disaster. And as in our illustration Satan does everything that he possibly can to try to divert our attention away from how bad things really are in the world. Now one thing that Satan does to do is this, something that's called gradualism. Have you ever heard that word before? Gradualism. What is gradualism? It means that Satan gradually makes things that are very bad seem as if they aren't bad at all anymore, things that were really disgusting, things that people considered to be obscene twenty years ago, today are considered alright by most people that are living on the earth. To illustrate how gradualism works; there was a secretary that wanted to play a little trick on her boss. Now her boss had a big fancy desk and one of these big fancy chairs for the desk. It was ergonomically prepared so that you could turn the chair. If you turned it to the left it would lower it so that you could be just at the right height to the desk or you could turn it to the right and you could raise it up some. And as a trick she would come into work before the boss got there every day and she would turn that chair one turn down. Now by the end of the month the boss was sitting at the desk like this,(with his knees up to his chest) and he didn't really realize what had happened because it had happened so gradually. Well that's what gradualism does.
this is very interesting. i think amyone who has been hypotized to stop smoking or recieved suggestion for somthing else might reconise the opening. it is designed to put one in a relaxed state, buy saying "This evening we're going to take an imaginary train ride." the listener is encouraged to use his/her imagination. to take this ride of the inagination is to enter a comfortable state. open to suggestion. the visual and emotional instruction are typical of this approach.
this is a form of hyponotic suggestion.
i would like to encourage everyone to look into this kind of suggestion. understanding what is happening to us in these situations can nullify the intended efficts.
are the rosicrucian's another cult?.
i'm considering applying to their order.
this time i wanna do some homework but they are a secrect society very quiet and unscandalish.. what do you think.
CULT
We do not propose a belief system, nor a dogmatic decree, but a personal, practical approach to living that each student must learn and master through their own experiences.
you must master there approach to living.
you said "secrect society", there is no good secrect society.
plese take care with these cult members
we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.
we want you to change the name of your organization.
we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.
pay no attention to the cult behind the curtain!!
catholic nuns are killing people!! maby
all religions control the entire waking life of there members. right?
one cult is not as good as another the WTB&TS is the best! right?
WTB&TS: Wanted Two Billion & Two Slaves
joke of the day.
why isn't the WT spreading the good news around the world on TV?----------------there in the magavine and book business.
