those of us who have previously spent years and even decades reading and studying wts materials regarding the "beasts" of bible prophecy and how "false religion" has supported such know full well the wts's habit of slicing and dicing quotes so as to make it appear that "christendom" has turned their back on god in favor of world governments and especially the united nations.
in the july 8, 1996 awake, pages 22-25, an article entitled, the pope's un visit _ what did it accomplish?, criticizes the pope's visit and speech to the un during its' october 1995 50th anniversary celebration.
typically, the article begins with sliced/diced quotes which "seem" to "prove" the wts's historic proposition that, although well-intentioned, christendom's faith has been misplaced in man himself, and the un.
MA,
I would like to know if you think this could be anything but an intentional act of deception on the part of the WT?
TheOldHippie,
Is the WT your source of info. on the Pope? Were did you learn this blind hatred for him?
He says no to sex out side of monogamous marriage too, but you knew that. What stopped you from thinking it through? Who taught you about Catholics? Can they be trusted?
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this danny pearl thing has brought home memories of murder to me(my 1st husband) please,please.......just say you care right now-nothing else.......please.i'm having a real emotional night...i had no one before.............t. todays affirmation:.
the complete lack of evidence is the surest sign that the conspiracy is working.
Valentine
I hope things are better for you in the light of today. For most of us the nights can be hard but with the dawn can come hope. don't forget there is also love in the world. I care.
Billy
i decided to make a new thread instead of posting my response on the old one .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?d=22330&site=3&page=2 .
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More hidden claims of apostolic succession from the WT. with the power to loose and bind.
It is the doctrine of the WT that a DF person IS cut off from God.
"jehovah will no longer hear your prayers or cries for help. Only Satan can now"Since the lines of communication has been cut by the WT it is only natural that Jah will not here DF'ed prayers until reinstated.
Here on the net, were the need to conform is minimal and no privilege can be gained by towing the party line, I don't think you will find any elder or ex-elder who would claim this control tactic as a "true doctrine."
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i enjoy reading all your posts.
i have been lurking for months .
i was hoping that someone could tell me if we currently charge for literature in other countries or is it free like in the u.s. (just for voluntary contributions.
Hi
yes they do. Whether or not the WT charges outright or asks for "voluntary contributions" depends on the tax structure of the country. In the U.S. the WT only went from a marked price to contributions with changes in the U.S. tax laws. there is material addressing this question available online.
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why has the wtbts downgraded us inhabitants of the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland to living simply in britain?
apart from being geographically incorrect, its also quite insulting too.
take a look at nicolaous post on the our kingdom ministry thread.
The bible clearly shows that as true christians we ought to watch how we talk and walk, and in accordance with this fine scriptural principle, the aim has been, not to stumble those of our brothers and the world who might understand the word 'Great' differently.
That is why I call it "adequate but not Great Britain" or sometimes "the nation who's name stumbles," but if I am speaking to a mature Christian I call it "great Britain not to be confused with the great WT, The only truly Great nation."
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the following two accounts of the morning visit by the women to anoint jesus body are contradictory.
according to mark, the women wondered how they would remove the stone covering the tomb, but they found that it had already been rolled away.
matthew, however, says that when the women went to the tomb, there was an earthquake, and an angel came down from heaven, went to the tomb, and rolled the stone back.
You are thinking about the expanding universe one night wile walking on train tracks. A sound cause you think about two effects, expanding universe and a train noise. You look up and down the track and see nothing in the darkness. "hum" you say two yourself "two effects without visible cause" as you step off the track.
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the march 15 issue of the watchtower carries a study article with the theme text; "look!
i am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.
" (matthew 28:20).
Ozzie: On one hand the society says there has always been a faithful and discreet slave class on earth at any given time since pentecost....then on the other hand they say the 'weeds choked out the wheat' after the death of the apostles up until the time "Russell" came along and...."turned on the light in the 20th century" on Gods word."
seen opens on a writer siting at his desk in the WT writing department
*types huridly* "With the death of the apostles the gates of hell prevailed over the Christ's church and the king of this world placed his henchman on the thrown of saint Peter. We can take grate joy in the fact of Russell's 20th century victory over the gates hell......." Enter WT editor stage right *reads over sholder*
"maybe we should go with the weeds and wheat thing again. Oh and about that walking our crooked path, make it a boat tacking OK."
end seen.
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last nights meeting stated that in march they will be targeting inactive jw's.
just a warning for all you hermits out there.
barracade the doors, pull out the shotgun and take shifts watching, cause they're determined to get you back.
I see, the WT teaching that Lent, no wait, March is a time for Reconciliation in preparation for the Easter feast, oh...ha...hum...the Memorial.
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i am new to this forum but i have for the past several days been reading posts from people that for the first time in 26 years have pasts, memories and feelings like my self.
suffice to say that i too was born and raised in "the truth".
i have at one time or another been, a ms, a vacation pioneer, a regular pioneer, a disfellowship individual, a re-instated individual, publicly reproved, privately reproved and finally for the past 7 years a man who they don't even come on my property cause he's a nut who might shoot you and will at the very least call the police and have you arrested for trespassing individual.. unlike so many others though i find no personal desire to rant or rage against the machine.
zugzzwan Welcome Hi and Howdy
So you didn't come to rant or rage, well, that's good. To rage is to eat poison but ranting can help sometimes. I hope you get what you need. peace
looking foward to your posts
Billy
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another brilliant example of circular reasoning from the wtbts.
*** jv 704 31 how chosen and led by god ***.
chapter 31. how chosen and led by god.
I found no reasoning what so ever in the quote. It is a simple assertion without any form of evidence. all in all, the statement is generic.
IT IS only logical that there would be one true religion. This is in harmony with the fact that the true God is a God, ‘not of disorder, but of peace.’ (1 Corinthians 14:33) The Bible says that actually there is only ‘one faith.’ (Ephesians 4:5) Who, then, are the ones who form the ones who form the body of true worshipers today? We do not hesitate to say that they are (insert name here),” declares the book (insert name here).
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