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  Press Release: JWs and Child Molestation

  by JohnJBB123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  january 10, 2002. for immediate release:.

  approaches to education, inc. again calls jehovahs witnesses leaders to account.

  in recent months william bowen blew the whistle on jehovah witnesses leaders' policy concerning the treatment of victims of child molestation within the religion.

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  worf

  JohnB.

  I think you're doing excellent work. I would like to encourage you to follow up completely on the story about Charles Riley. The details are shocking as well as very, very interesting. Definitely a human rights issue.
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  Contacting Stratton Ohio over major JW Dispute

  by hawkaw in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  someone unknown to me sent an electronic mail message to me with respect to community conscious international comments on the dispute between the watchtower and the community of stratton, ohio.

  i guess the person wants to send the following to every person in stratton and would like comments on the message.

  so what do you think of the following folks?

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  worf

  I know who this came from. Tell them worf said this is excellent!
  It will be effective.
  worf
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  My interview with Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Danni in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know i said i wouldn't post here again because of the way i made everyone upset over alanf,but i thought you all might want to know what took place and i do need some advice.. .

  yesterday i took a little time out to talk with jehovah's witnesses.

  at first they were more than happy to answer my questions.

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  worf

  Danni,

  Its obvious to me that somehow you opened up a can of worms in that area with those witnesses. If they are inviting you to the hall to answer your questions it must be that they feel they have to defend themselves.I would not be surprised if because of your conversation, a number of the j-dubs there are questioning some things and/or have begun to look into things you mentioned.Sometimes it just takes a few words to get the spark going.
  Whatever the situation is, and no matter how far it goes, you've got them on the defensive here. Use that.
  But my suggestion is not to give them a list of questions in advance.
  All they'll do is prepare ahead of time to use stupid wt rhetoric as answers and lies as excuses.
  I wish I could be there with you.
  If they refuse to meet with you if you don't give the list ahead of time, F em.
  But continue your efforts to inform whoever you can. All you got to do is sow the seed.It'll grow. Its growing here in N.Y.

  worf.
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  hello all--new to board; my story

  by razorMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone...hope all are having a great holiday season.. ***warning--kind of long***.

  i am 31 and have been "out" for an undetermined # of years...probably starting as soon as i moved out of the house at age 23. i just "drifted away".. i was born into the jw faith.

  my parents remain devout and "zealous" to this day.

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  worf

  To Richie:

  A M E N .

  worf
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  hello all--new to board; my story

  by razorMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone...hope all are having a great holiday season.. ***warning--kind of long***.

  i am 31 and have been "out" for an undetermined # of years...probably starting as soon as i moved out of the house at age 23. i just "drifted away".. i was born into the jw faith.

  my parents remain devout and "zealous" to this day.

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  worf

  To Richie:

  A M E N !

  worf
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  hello all--new to board; my story

  by razorMind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello everyone...hope all are having a great holiday season.. ***warning--kind of long***.

  i am 31 and have been "out" for an undetermined # of years...probably starting as soon as i moved out of the house at age 23. i just "drifted away".. i was born into the jw faith.

  my parents remain devout and "zealous" to this day.

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  worf

  razorMind,

  Glad to have you here on the board.
  I can relate to everything you said about education.
  I was born a j-dub too and although I did good in school, I also went throughout school with no drive and no encouragement and just drifted because of the teachings of the borg about college, armageddon etc.
  I'm 40 years old but didn't realize the org was a scam until I was 38.
  Never went to college. And I could have been and done a lot more for myself if I had gone.
  I want to say that I also feel the pain of a lot of wasted years.
  Its not easy. but I am going to go back to college to get my degree.
  As one poster mentioned above, "Its never too late"
  For example, I went to my nieces graduation from Broome College in Binghamton NY last year and there were men and women graduatiing who were in their 40's 50's, and 60's.
  This really encouraged me.I hope this encourages you too.
  Also the main speaker made an excellent point which all of us ex-dubs already appreciate.
  He was not a witness or an ex-dub but he said this in his speech to the graduating students: "What you do in your life is not between you and an organization. Its between you and your God."
  Personally I thought this was the best "Talk" I had ever heard.
  Hopefully this will be of encouragement for you to continue your desire to display your talents.
  This is one of the best ways to show that the WT is a scam.

  worf
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  JWs CAN CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS!

  by Sirona in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when a jw tells you christmas is pagan, therefore you shouldnt celebrate it, you can refer them to this article.

  it is discussing wallpaper and other home decorations and what sorts are acceptable.. *** g76 12/22 14 are they idolatrous decorations?

  so the christian needs to be primarily concerned about what?

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  SIRONA!!

  This is excellent research from you. I just have to copy this post and I'll make sure I put it to very good use here in NYC!

  worf
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  When JWs used to have FUN!!!

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i started associating in the late 1960s the jws were very sociable and had frequent fun events.

  here are some examples of the kinds of events we enjoyed, why they existed, and then the reason they were taken away:.

  sports: being involved in school or professional sports was frowned upon, so the brothers in the hall would arrange for sports for every other weekend.

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  worf

  Hi Amazing!

  Enjoyed your list above and things definitely happened that way here in the five boroughs of NYC even though some congs would follow the "rules" and some would not.It all depended on your CO and/or your body of elders, or your PO if he was particularly powerful.
  With all these halfway or not followed at all "rules" its just more confirmation that "God" was not, is not, and never will be the force behind the wts.
  To add, one of our CO's in the early 90's told us elders that the society said that any if any elder or ministerial servant was caught going to R rated movies or known to watch them at home, that this would be grounds for their removal.
  Such nonsense!
  I watched them anyway and I'm glad I did.
  worf
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  Logic of God escapes me

  by Amazing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in past posts i have placed god on trial by questioning two issues: 1) the issues in the graden of eden, and the severe punishment of the entire human race for a very minor act of eating fruit.

  2) god ordering the extermination of entire cities, including every last man, woman, child, baby, and even livestock.. results: the result on this forum have be mixed as expected, but showed a range from suport to tryuionmg top explain these events with reasoning, logic, or plausibilities.

  some felt that i might be losing my faith.

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  Amazing,

  I have had the same questions as you expressed. In fact even while still in the wts, I used to wonder why all of us supposedly have to suffer for what Adam and Eve supposedly did plus the other concerns you mentioned When I would give them deep thought they just didn't make sense to me.
  Most of the people who died in the WTC just went to work that day and didn't return home. Whats the point of that being allowed to happen?
  God didn't prevent that from happening either. Again, Why?
  Questions, but no real answers.
  But one thing is for sure: These questions definitely make the claims of all of these religious organizations such as wts false.
  worf
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  What happened in the beginnig of the 90s?

  by GermanXJW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in 1990 the german branch sought recognition as a public corporation.

  the austrian branch did a similar thing.

  in 1991 lloyd barry signed for associating as an ngo with un's pr-department.

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  worf

  AMAZING,

  I agree with your comments on this 100%. As you mentioned, some say that ex-jws hurt the societys objective of becoming more kinder. But the fact is that the hypocrisy of their changes must not be forgotten.What these j-dubs seem to forget when they complain about what exjws are doing is that the society has torn apart lives and families and caused untold suffering by dfing or otherwise sanctioning those who spoke against doctrines that they(the society)
  later changed.
  And I agree with you 100% when you said that the wts must be brought down somehow.That is true. It must happen and it will happen. I for one am working on enlightening jdubs here in New York City.
  But I just wanted to express my agreement with your comments.
  worf