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  Cops Are Watching Your Electric Bill

  by Yizuman in

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  link: http://www.kfmb.com/topstory23619.htmlhigh electric bill leads to calif. police raidhomeowner demands written apology.

  posted: 11:13 a.m. est march 28, 2004. .

  carlsbad home power bill prompts pot probeprinter-friendly version .

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  Wren

  $300.00 a month? That's Chicken Feed! It's a normal bill where I live.

  An article about cops/marijuana/electricity hit the front page of the local paper here. The headlines were 'STEALING ELECTRICITY!' because the price is so darn high! A couple of hydroponic pot farmers had an entire barn full of crops, out in the bush. They tapped into the electric line down by the road for all the grow lights. The electric company found it fiquring that had a loss of $10,000.00 somewhere along the line. The cops finding the barn full of plants warrented about two sentences out of a full page article. Needless to say they were convicted of felony theft of electricity.
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  Did you ever catch an Elder doing something "Un-theocratic"?

  by tazmaniac in

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  i remember finding 2 week old lottery tickets in a elders car i was working on.

  he said they must have been from the previous owner.

  he owned the car for over a year and a half and the lottery tickets were just a little over two weeks old.

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  Wren

  Oh man, a trip down memory lane about 25 years. I'm still laughing.

  Construction boss husband's daily trip out of town, 30 miles, to the jobsite: $3.00

  Half a rack of beer for the crew after work: $5.99

  Running into The Annoying Nerd Elder in the liquor store, while buying the beer, with an open Penthouse in hand admiring the photos.

  Priceless
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  Missing Time on your Resumé - Pioneers, Bethelites, Missionaries

  by Scully in

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  for anyone who spent months or even years pioneering, at bethel or as missionaries:.

  how do you account for those "lost years" on your resume if you are looking for work?do you just leave that time blank?do you put it in under another category (like charitable work)?do you list the skills (if any) that you acquired during that time?do you fess up and say "i was bamboozled by a cult and did their crap for x number of years"?.

  love, scully

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  Wren

  I know several that do WT construction "missionary" work spending months & years at a time overseas. Combination of leave blank, skills used, charity work or a "creative employer reference" from family/friends that have a business. All that I know stay in the same line of work: construction, housekeeping, cook, receptionist. The missionaries I've known get jobs, to begin with, that don't require much of a resume.

  About watching them deal with gaps in employment. One couple after years overseas came back, found employment and right away bought a car with a loan. The dealer did not finish all the background checks until after they drove away with signed papers. The next day the dealership called about all the years of no employment/credit gap and we want the car back. They told him "Sorry too late now". They made their payments and kept the car in the end.
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  A question for former pioneers.

  by JV in

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  everytime you go to an assembly or to a convention or the co pays a visit, there's always a call for people to pioneer.

  they always drag out a couple of pioneers on to the stage and "interview" them.

  the one question they always ask is if the pioneers have any regrets over pioneering.

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  Wren

  Regrets? yes, and the only excuse I can come up with is it was 1975, I was 18 looking for answers, and cultish groups were still much in fashion. Two years spent on the next apocalypse. Well, at least I didn't acquire any bad habits other than annoying the hell out of the community.

  Looking back now, I have no excuse! I lived with non-JWs that implored me to go to college and had saved for years to pay for my education. They advised me to get involved with a religion that actually helps the poor, hungry, needy and quit embarrassing myself. Who is the smart one in this family? The WT pulled through for me in the end. It took several years, by way of hypocrisy, guilt, intimidation & time demands to finally convince me it was time not well spent.
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  The Society's Late Sixties Film "HERITAGE"

  by gespro in

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  hi guys!

  this is my first posting and my question is:

  does anyone remember the movie (i believe the name was) "heritage" the borg presented on tv around 68-71?

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  Wren

  Yes, at an impressionable 11yrs.old, I saw it at the KH. I swallowed it hook, line and sinker. I remember something about JW's holding high "peace of mind & self respect" in the film. Right, good qualities to develop young but ultimately in the wrong religion.
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  After Baptism Was There Anything That You Didn't Comprehend About The Truth

  by minimus in

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  i've seen a lot of persons that got baptized and go thru 100 questions with the elders say that they did not know that such and such a thing was a disfellowshipping offense.

  or that they would be counseled or looked down upon for a certain thing.

  did you ever experience that type of thing?

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  Wren

  Before & after baptism. The meaning of the word propaganda, seriously. After the propaganda article came out in the mags, I asked someone to explain it to me. My head was always in a fog trying to understand JW "unbiased publishing". I should have took the time to question "truths" earlier.
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  My two week consulting trip to Bethel (the beginning of the end) Part 5

  by seven006 in

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  i knew i had a bright mind, i had been told that my whole life.

  she hated going out in service but since i hated it myself we didn't go do the door to door work much.

  i look back now and i can't believe how controlling and un-loving that religion had made me.

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  Wren

  Just checked in today to see any cont. story. I only read seven's posts, but noticed a reference to elders, so went back and read all posts. Here's a belated reply reading between the lines on the elders. o.k., overseer & servents, I left this location the year before the elders arrangement.

  I'm speaking from JW elder & community pov. in a staid, Quaker based, rural community back 28-33 yrs.ago. (I remember the big event when pantyhose first came to town.)

  Here's two kids, one is fresh out of a divorce scandal. Remember, any divorce is a scandal. Now that they've tarnished forever the impending marriage, they still want a big, white, flashy wedding. Let's see, what are the attitudes present here. No. 1, No, you can not use the KH for the event and no, none of the elders will give the talk. No. 2, What kind of obnoxious children are you anyway to have a big wedding at all? Now, run along and don't embarrass yourselves anymore and take any hope of a fairy tale wedding with you. What kind of upright self respecting BOE and KH community would not think this way?

  This sounds harsh, overly critical and dramatic, but the JW social club atmosphere is a pressure to reckon with if you have "mud" on your shoes. This is the same group that will drag up a new friend's DF history in polite conversation whether it has been one year, sixty years, or post mortum.

  I can sympathise. I was married the same year at eighteen so I could have sex and still be in the believers club. This, under less than ideal circumstances, also. While practicing our vows with an harried elder of six children, he privately advised us that we could call the whole thing off now and that it was perfectly all right, and that no one would think the worse of us. He was so convinced the marriage was an impending disaster.
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  My two week consulting trip to Bethel (the beginning of the end) Part 5

  by seven006 in

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  i knew i had a bright mind, i had been told that my whole life.

  she hated going out in service but since i hated it myself we didn't go do the door to door work much.

  i look back now and i can't believe how controlling and un-loving that religion had made me.

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  Wren

  Yes, and finally beat the heat.
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  My two week consulting trip to Bethel (the beginning of the end) Part 5

  by seven006 in

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  i knew i had a bright mind, i had been told that my whole life.

  she hated going out in service but since i hated it myself we didn't go do the door to door work much.

  i look back now and i can't believe how controlling and un-loving that religion had made me.

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  Wren

  On all parts: Wow!

  Congrats on surviving so well, now, through your 30th.
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  As a witness how many could not remember your child's date of birth

  by rekless in

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  i had five kids and my wife remembered every ones dob, but i never did learn.

  the most embarrassing moment was when i had to take my son to the doctors.

  and standing in front of the office i had to asked him how old he was and what was his birthday.

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  Wren

  Yes, my husband still does and three out of four children had difficulty remembering the exact day up into high school age. We were inactive for years. I make a point of sending B-day cards to immediate family that celebrate now to show some manners if nothing else.

  As for embarrassing, my teenage daughter and I were standing in the police station at 2:00 a.m., one night she was spending the night with a friend. She was picked up with her friends for possible MIP but was released. The officer had to ask me her birthdate as she couldn't remember which day. Her friend had told him that's because she's a JW and doesn't celebrate it! The police found some humor in it anyway.

  It was one of those I'm-a-religious-idiot moments.