Desertflower
I look up to you both for making an exit after so many years in the org. May you find kind and gentle times. I will look foward to reading your posts.
wren
Posts by Wren
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26another newbie
by desertflower inguess i've been lurking long enough.
been about 2 yrs or longer.. take a lot of nerve for the first post.my husband and i both left.
together although he knew long before i did.
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Do you Remember the Moment you Stopped Being a JW?
by Smoldering Wick in"it only takes a moment.
a moment of sanity.
clarity.
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Wren
Thoughtful thread. Good to see you made it through. I wish I had the moment of clarity. I needed a pick ax coming down on granite to slowly chip away the defenses.
Here's a chip towards the beginning: I was in a car accident in fast stop and go heavy traffic on the skyline in SF trying to get myself and three toddler/infants to the assembly. My daughter was not seriously hurt but needed to go to the ER for stitches and further evaluation. When my childrens grandparents called later that day,(this was before cell phones) they were angry. I was scolded because they were inconvenienced waiting at the gate for my arrival and for us missing the programs, this after I told them we had been in an accident. I let myself get talked out of going directly home and not coming back.
Other chips of the same type or that of double standards, double lives, double Watchtower speak, and more pressure resulted in my turning away from most JW activity years ago.
The change to nonbeliever was recent. The final chip was pathetic but liberating. I had just read several articles/exerpts on mind control, one of which was in Hassans techniques used section. It was time to act. At 45 yo, I went to bed each night repeating to myself like a frightened child wishing away monsters in the closet. "I will not go insane. I will not become possessed".
Guess what? It worked.
The fear is gone.
The light is on.
The door is open.Thanks for this chance to vent and use of board space.
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jehovahWitnesses hit Priests with BRICKS!
by Tallyman inman!
it's one thing to destroy the catholic cathedrals and such.... and to violently exterminate the clergy and laity,.
but then to whack the priests on their heads.
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Wren
Wow! 1979. Rutherford still lives on and on. The artwork posts are always interesting, thanks.
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WTS says you are free to do what we tell you
by ozziepost inthe may 15 issue of the watchtower contains a discussion of the question: would it be advisable for a true christian to attend a funeral or a wedding in a church?.
the tone of the wts view is set in the very first line our taking part in any form of false religion is displeasing to jehovah and must be avoided.
nonetheless the last line of the article states whatever the situation, the christian should make sure that the decision will not interfere with his preserving a good conscience before god and men.. so apparently it's a personal decision for the jw as to whether he/she will attend a funeral in a church or not.
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Wren
Looking from the outside in now, this looks like another page from Watchtower book of How to Instill Guilt and Uncertainty in Your Followers.
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Appeal to NBC Dateline
by Amazing ini will be sending this letter/email to nbc dateline at: [email protected].
i am posting it in the event some of you decide to do something similar: you can also mail this to:.
nbc news - dateline.
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Wren
Thank you for your post. This sample letter will help. It is my hope also the exposure will help stop the abuse that is covered over from the very top of the organization on down.
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"Dubs For Dummies"
by Farkel indear brothers and sisters in the worldwide brotherhood of jehovahs witnessestm,.
there has been much public interest in our beliefs lately, so we have prepared a very brief summary of our core beliefs in a new pamphlet which you may offer to interested persons.
hopefully, this pamphlet will generate enough interest with honest-hearted people and enable you to start many new bible studies.
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Wren
I loved the paragraphs about second greater prophet fulfillments and riding the wild beast!
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What did/do you most look fwd to?
by SPAZnik inafter 29 years of bondage.... i'm loving living it up.. and wondering.... when you first left,.
what things did you most look forward to doing.
or, for that matter, what things do u still look forward to?.
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Wren
College, more time, less destructive guilt. Later, freedom to explore intellectually.
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Complete reversal: from Witness to atheist
by Ephanyminitas ini'm pretty new here (five minutes old!
) and i'm curious: how many have left the organization and, in time, become athiests.
i was raised in the organization, so growing up, my thinking was -- of course -- stifled.
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Wren
Count me in for going to "evolutionist soup from JW nuts".
I can't prove God exists and I can't prove God does not exist. At this point I agree with many humanist goals/ideas.
The great writings/books of Christianity and other world religions seemed like reading a mix of folklore and the inspirational. I came away with the idea that originally it was man made for control and to fill a need for sprituality.
Morality and the motivation to leave this world a better place does not require a church stamp.
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WHAT Kingdom Hall did Ya'll go to?
by thewiz ini was looking at another thread.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=24809&site=3.
and was wondering,if i'm not being too forward, what kh did everyone here go to.. i used to go to the cranston kh in ri, usa .
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Wren
1963 Davis, CA
1965-70 Newberg, OR
1971-72 San Francisco, CA in Richmond District
1972-1974 Hidden Valley, Santa Rosa, CA
1974-1984 Brookings, OR
1984-1988 El Centro, CA
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Life Is On the Hairy Edge
by AlanF ingot a call late this afternoon: "your daughter was in a car accident along with four other girls.
you need to come to the emergency room.".
daughter not there yet.
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Wren
High hopes for a fast recovery.