I like this thread, because being out of the borg has opened so many new possibilities, all totaling a much happier life. I'm starting college in two weeks and plan to pursue a career in social services, hopefully child protective services. I currently volunteer my Saturdays at a soup kitched (have been doing that since January) and Sunday afternoons at an animal shelter (been doing that since October). The satisfaction I've gotten from these two venues far outway all the years I spent knocking on doors. Now I'm truly helping other people.
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Your future dreams ( 5/10/20 yrs) -after the borg
by Cappuccino OC innow that you're out & free of the wts, (borg) what are your future plans and/ or dreams?
where do you see yourself 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years from now?
how many are happy with their carreers/jobs?
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English elder logs in.
by caspian inhi everyone.. my name is caspian, i am an elder in a congregation in england.. i have been reading this forum for about 12 months, never having the confidence to log in.. however after all the information that has come to light in the recent weeks, i feel that i need to start coming to terms with the crisis that i now feel.. i am a third gen jw, and been an elder for 15 years, my family whom i love dearly are all naive fully committed jw's.. please if any current or ex elders in a similar situation care to make any good advice.
please help.. sincere regards.
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writerpen
Welcome Caspian!
I came to the board with the same crisis moment in my life last August, and well, I'm no longer in crisis and am the happiest I have ever been. I'm curious to know if the child molestation issues have caused some of your doubt.
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Does power corrupt?
by sleepy in.
most of the people i knew as witnesses were nice people with genuine motives.. in fact those with obvious personnallity flaws, would not , in my congregation anyway , be made servants or elders.. but i wonder did the postion attained in the org actually change the people who were chosen?.
does the extra respect , power and aurthority over others cause changes in a person makeup they can not help?.
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I truly believe that the primary reason for almost ALL motives in the borg is "LOOK AT ME!" Even I was guilty of this. When I pioneered, I did it for the image and never for God. I dare say that most elders would not remain in the troof if it were not for their position. The WTBS plays position highly in their pubs. Now, I'm working on humility. And just a few weeks ago, I had my first Bible reading at my new Episcopal church. When I read, it was from the heart and the idea of "LOOK AT ME" never entered my mind.
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How big is the JW org?
by RubyTuesday inmajor denominational families of christianity
(this table does not include all christians.
these numbers are estimates, and are here primarily to assist in ranking branches by size, not to provide a definitive count of membership.
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Well I would say they are way off on the Witness number. The size now is only about six million. They must be using the memorial attendance.
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Watchtower praises disfellowshipping-Media
by Dogpatch inthis media video just released by the watchtower to counter what they are doing in disfellowshipping all the whistleblowers is disgusting.
smarmy robert pevy of the writing staff is a total pinhead, and rodney stark is such a joke he makes disfellowshipping out to me a laughing matter!.
http://www.jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/311131isdn.htm.
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cabm52,
Welcome to the board. It all depends on the individual. When my brother was disassociated, my parents would not speak to him for any reason, not even if they both showed up at the grandparents home at the same time. Now they speak to him, will accept calls from he and I (I was DFd last August), and will even allow us over to their home - although not for a meal. It has been my experience that witnesses change their minds alot, so in view of the August 2002 KM article about Disfellowshipped family members, I'm expecting them to change their position again. One thing I don't do is put my hope in us ever having a normal relationship. And in view of the abuse they dished out to my brother and I, my therapist says that not having contact with them is the best thing right now. They do not know how to love, as most JW's do not.
Edited by - writerpen on 19 July 2002 16:28:57
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Watchtower praises disfellowshipping-Media
by Dogpatch inthis media video just released by the watchtower to counter what they are doing in disfellowshipping all the whistleblowers is disgusting.
smarmy robert pevy of the writing staff is a total pinhead, and rodney stark is such a joke he makes disfellowshipping out to me a laughing matter!.
http://www.jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/311131isdn.htm.
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writerpen
The old fart in the video said that ones are disfellowhipped when they sin and "do not repent and change their ways." BULLSHIT! Repentance to them means that you are attending all their sorry assed meetings and kissing elders asses. When I was DF, I had never given them the opportunity to take me through a judicial committee. Honestly, I had sinned terribly, and I've admitted that it was embezzlement on another thread. But I was the one that came forward to the authorities about my actions, repaid all the money, and began the long haul of changing my life forever. The judge noted in my case that he was reducing my sentence to misdemeanor because I had come forward and changed my life. Now I devote my weekends to helping homeless people and animals at a local shelter. Since I turned my life around, I have sought many ways to help the less fortunate and am a different person. My actions show I have repented and turned my life around, but those asses are misleading when they tell the world that one is not disfellowshipped if they are repentant. Repentance to them means following their rules, and has nothing to do with turning one's life around.
PS - excuse the typos, as I'm very angry while typing this. Do we have spell check available on this thing?
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Watchtower praises disfellowshipping-Media
by Dogpatch inthis media video just released by the watchtower to counter what they are doing in disfellowshipping all the whistleblowers is disgusting.
smarmy robert pevy of the writing staff is a total pinhead, and rodney stark is such a joke he makes disfellowshipping out to me a laughing matter!.
http://www.jw-media.org/vnr/2122827332/311131isdn.htm.
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writerpen
I'm quite sure their experts are somehow related to the organization. Maybe a full witness (although Stark may not be), the spouse to a witness, etc. Just like the woman I remember seeing in another video stating something to the effect that molestation was not talked about in the 70s and 80s. The whole feeling was that because people were not educated about it, then all should be forgiven. She had to be a witness. I'd bet money on it. Through her comments, they made sure her degrees were hanging close to the camera.
I hate em all. It just irritates the hell out of me.
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Did John Denver hate the Witnesses?
by writerpen ini remember hearing stories as a kid that john denver would ask all the witnesses present at his concerts to stand.
and, then after they stood, he would play the national anthem.
any truth to this?
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I remember hearing stories as a kid that John Denver would ask all the Witnesses present at his concerts to stand. And, then after they stood, he would play the National Anthem. Any truth to this? Did he really hate the Witnesses?
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My wife just left for the tacoma dome conv.!
by FRUSR8TD inwell folks....my wife just left this morning to the wa convention in tacoma.
i told her about the "new" book they will be giving her there...(she hates it when i know what she can expect at meetings or other things like this...thanks guys...;)....).
anyone from here going to be there?...i told her to be nice to the apostates outside...some of they may be freinds of mine...lol.
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writerpen
I know this sounds so crazy but do xwitnesses and their witness spouses have decent sex? I mean, growing up as a Witness, it was assumed that those marriages were just horrible and that sex was out of duty only. Sorry if this is too personal, but just want to know.
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Artcile in St Petersberg times
by nowaytess inhere is an artice on jehovah's witnesses which was run in the st petersburg times this morning.
i have been in touch with the reporter, sharon tubbs, of this article.
she is well aware of the dateline and wt polices toward child molesters.. http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/11/floridian/the_other_side_of_the.shtml.
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writerpen
PUKE!!!!!!!!!!