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Gandhi

by nobodylovesme in

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gandhi

gandhi walked barefoot everywhere, to the point that his feet became quite thick and hard.

he also was quite a spiritual person.

xenawarrior

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nobodylovesme

Re: Gandhi

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17 y 11 m 5 d

Fiji

Mungobaobab:

oh lala!

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Cute but very disturbing... Send your kid a letter from Santa...

by Elsewhere in

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i love to get into the whole christmas spirit thing, but i never take it to the point of lying to or deceiving children about it.

i try to teach kids that it is the spirit of christmas that matters... then i saw this thing.

parents are actively trying to deceive their kids by offering them "proof" that santa is real.

xenawarrior

Since we are talking about Santa, here's my comment: Belief in Santa doesn't equal "magical Christmas memories", so disbelief in Santa and still celebrating Christmas can still bring forth magical Christmases

I haven't seen anyone state that kids must believe in Santa or that disbelieving negates "magical Christmas memories" Also, no one said that not believing in Santa would harm a child in any way. Folks here (and in a couple of other threads on the same topic) are defending "belief" in Santa because there are others who have stated that it is harmful to children. I don't believe that anyone who has defending that practice/tradition has sent the argument in the other direction, saying that it is required.

Also- "belief in Santa" does equal "magical Christmas memories" for many.

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Children being used as guinea pigs in New York

by ignored_one in

new york's hiv experiment by jamie doran .

reporter/producer, guinea pig kids .

hiv positive children and their loved ones have few rights if they choose to battle with social work authorities in new york city.

xenawarrior

It's the sort of thing that you expect in Stalin's Russia ... not the supposed "land of the free"

I suppose you don't have any awful things happening in your own country do you Simon?

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Cute but very disturbing... Send your kid a letter from Santa...

by Elsewhere in

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i love to get into the whole christmas spirit thing, but i never take it to the point of lying to or deceiving children about it.

i try to teach kids that it is the spirit of christmas that matters... then i saw this thing.

parents are actively trying to deceive their kids by offering them "proof" that santa is real.

xenawarrior

Letters from Santa are nothing new and they are great !! To see the look on a kid's face when they get that letter is priceless !

Elsewhere- if you were freaked about this thing- you'd probably be really upset to learn that people will even make fake "reindeer" tracks in the snow for their kids to see. Oh, the horror !!

I have never known anyone a long line of many generations of people in my life to be harmed in any way by the whole Santa thing.

Princess, I think you are right- if it weren't for the JW thing, I doubt it would really be an issue. And for many ex-JW's, it's also not an issue. I guess it's all in how you frame it.

I suppose if there is a history of dishonesty about other issues in life within a family, there could be anger and bitterness associated with it but then the anger isn't coming from the Santa thing, its coming from the dishonesty as a whole in that family. And I can understand how some ex-JW's could view it the way they do-having realized that they were lied to about so much in their life. But, IMO- their anger is about that and the damage they might feel was caused to them as children etc. and needs to be dealt with as such instead of projected onto so many other harmless things in life.

To me, the foundation of our dreams and what makes us strong is based on the hope that we generate through many things; including fantasy.

Is there a Santa?

The belief in Santa is based on love, hope, wonder and many other wonderful things. And it is spearate from any religious belief for those who enjoy the fun of it all.

After one no longer believes in Santa as a "real" being, Santa becomes a representation, thus "he" still exists, only in a different way. It represents the best of us. And there simply cannot be anything bad or wrong in that unless there is something bad and wrong going on in other areas of that life that isn't being addressed.

To me, "We believe in Santa" translated is "We believe in us!"

My 65 cents on the subject-once again

XW

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Should I teach my kids about Santa Claus? (Lie vs. Harmless Fantasy)

by AlmostAtheist in

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my wife and i got on a discussion about something i never would've guessed we'd need to.

she wants to teach our new baby about santa claus, easter bunny, & tooth fairy, but i don't.

of course, as witnesses we never would have taught that, and i have to acknowledge that i may only be reasoning using that old set of values.. i don't want to look into my kid's eyes and tell her something that i know for a fact isn't true.

xenawarrior

When we think it's cute that a child believes in Santa Claus, we're really thinking, "Aww. Look how gullible and ignorant that little boy/girl is."

Bull. Who is this "we" you speak of? You have a mouse in your pocket? That may be what you are thinking but it's certainly not what I've ever thought.

XW

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A "Nun" Joke

by Sunnygal41 in

a cabbie picks up a nun.

she gets into the cab, and the cab driver won't.

> ok" the nun says.

xenawarrior

LOL- those are funny. I'm thinking there is only one that I can pass on to my aunt (who is a nun)- the bathtub one. She'll get a kick out of that one.

What do you call a sleepwalking nun?

A roamin Catholic

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Is Bono Studying with the Dubs?? Latest CD

by Gretchen956 in

i had heard rumors that bono was studying with the witlesses, so i payed particular attention to the lyrics in his new cd "how to dismantle an atomic bomb".. if you read the lyrics there is a lot that could be construed as religious, he's obviously being influenced by someone's version.. and i even caught a couple things i thought may have come from the green bible... but then i read the lyrics to this song: .

anyone know the scoop?

someone was complaining on another thread about how political he is, that doesn't sound very "theocratic" either.yahweh take these shoesclick clacking down some dead end streettake these shoesand make them fittake this shirtpolyester white trash made in nowheretake this shirtand make it clean, cleantake this soulstranded in some skin and bonestake this souland make it sing yahweh, yahwehalways pain before a child is bornyahweh, yahwehstill i'm waiting for the dawn take these handsteach them what to carrytake these handsdon't make a fisttake this mouthso quick to criticizetake this mouthgive it a kiss yahweh, yahwehalways pain before a child is bornyahweh, yahwehstill i'm waiting for the dawn still waiting for the dawn, the sun is coming upthe sun is coming up on the oceanthis love is like a drop in the oceanthis love is like a drop in the ocean yahweh, yahwehalways pain before a child is bornyahweh, yahwehstill i'm waiting for the dawn take this citya city should be shining on a hilltake this cityif it be your willwhat no man can own, no man can taketake this hearttake this hearttake this heartand make it break music by u2lyrics by bono with the edgeproduced by chris thomas