i read half of it tonight.
i cant read anymore, tonight. maybe tommorow.
all i could think while reading it.....was oh my god!
-August 8th, 2001 - The day the lambs ROARED
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The greatest consistancy of the WTBTS is their INconsistancy.
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14Doubt Not-Fire Two......
by silentlambs ini am going to let j. r. brown look this one up for himself,.
from day one of this issue being raised the watchtower has maintained there is no problem with child molesters being shielded within the community of jehovahs witnesses.
the questions that beg to be answered are: .
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lots here from england.
stay tuned, it gets even better...-August 8th, 2001 - The day the lambs ROARED
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Compassion For Those Who Remain Silent
by Kismet infellow jw-com'ers:.
as excited as we are by the events announced by silent lambs and upcoming media attention, i would like to ask people to remember the many silent lambs who simply cannot speak or have not yet found their voice.. these victims should not be made to feel as second class people for their decision to remain silent.
i will not go into all the possible reasons why these victims remain silent.
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yup....kismet...hanging my head just a little remembering my own sister cannot come foward with her own voice and tell her story, and begin her recovery.
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ROAR!
by zev inin the back window of my car, a simple 8 1/2 x 11 paper taped to it with this message in bold print from a microsoft word program {anyone can do this}.
08-08-2001. the day the lambs roared!.
-zev, honourary member, the hurling class.
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slipnslidemaster:
> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=9593&site=3
check out the complete writ also on http://www.silentlambs.org
its a zippped document, and its excellent reading. well written.-Zev, honourary member, The hurling class
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ROAR!
by zev inin the back window of my car, a simple 8 1/2 x 11 paper taped to it with this message in bold print from a microsoft word program {anyone can do this}.
08-08-2001. the day the lambs roared!.
-zev, honourary member, the hurling class.
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in the back window of my car, a simple 8 1/2 x 11 paper taped to it with this message in bold print from a microsoft word program {anyone can do this}
08-08-2001
the day the lambs roared!
-Zev, honourary member, The hurling class
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Where does an elder's loyalty lie?
by ozziepost inif you are wondering where the elders' real interests lie, please consider this statement:.
true shepherds recognize that during these last days, jesus has appointed his faithful and discreet slave over all his belongings and that holy spirit has directed this slave in appointing elders for the shepherding of the sheep.
hence, being theocratic involves having a deep respect for this slave, for the organizational arrangements that the slave has instituted, and for the elder arrangement within the congregation.
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alanf said
Any elder who actually shows loyalty to the Bible over loyalty to the Society will be quickly removed, and if he makes that loyalty known publicly, will be disfellowshipped.
amen to that.
-Zev, honourary member, The hurling class
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Doubt Not!
by silentlambs ini thought you might like to see a fax i just sent to j. r. brown.
you can also pick it up on the front page of the website, you may also read and download the complaint that states the basis of this lawsuit.
run wt run...... silentlambs.
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the "gun shot" that was heard around the world....
-Zev, honourary member, The hurling class
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8/05/01 SECURITY ISSUES
by Amazing inhello all: normally, i get between 20 to 30 security alerts per day, with a few hackers and trojans.
but .... today has been an all time record!.
172 security alerts!.
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i've been getting hammered excessivly too amazing. i have a cable connection and the allerts are in the hundreds per hour. the lights never stop flickering. fortunatley, i have a decent firewall, and i dont have it on when i'm not home. so...let them eat /dev/null
-Zev, honourary member, The hurling class
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Friends - Too Little, Too Late?
by troubled ini posted this onto a previous thread, but wanted to start it on a new one as well.
as jws, we lack the "social outlet" all humans need, to have true friends one can speak openly and honestly with and not be afraid of judgmentalism.
what i've seen firsthand is that the "nucleus" of the congregation often has this need filled: elders, ms's, pioneers, and their families often do things together.
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dear troubled,
good day
a few thoughts from my own troubled mind. i hope they help you.
i too have been subject to a sheaparding call or two. always the theme is, we need you, and your not up to par. i balk. i used to be a servant. no longer, many years now. i noticed years ago a troubling disturbance, as was mentioned above, by another poster. serious and deep problems. even mental ones. i used to make fun of them. i was young and hadn't grasped what the real problems were. a VERY high number of dubs under doctors care for mental illnesses. i'm sorry if i'm not being p.c. here, i mean no harm or foul. i take an entirely different approach now, now that i am a person who indeed, needs professional help due to the things i have discovered about a life long cult i have belonged to.
all this has made me think.
and re-think.
now, i am no longer critical of those i see in the cong. all messed up. in some cases, not all, things are the way they are because people bring their troubles on themselves. in other cases, maybe they have difficulty reconciling the very things you and i have discovered recently.
so when the call comes, i receive with coffee and dognuts, and smile and stuff, but they have known that i find some things that have happened to me in another congregation disturbing, and no, i will not ever resume a position within this org ever again.
please, i know how you feel. you want to bust, you want to ask so many questions, and demand answers of these pitifull men.
troubled, they wont have them. and, even worse they wont care. even if you have every t crossed and every i dotted, in the end, your trouble, with a capitol t and expelled you will be, because we MUST keep JEHOVAH'S org clean.
please be very, very careful, what you say, and what you question. VERY careful. if you let them do all the talking, so much the better. at least you'll see, what their true motives are.
service time, meeting attendence, prayer, and loyalty oath to the org, and proper associations.
my thoughts, and prayers, are with you, as we seem to be struggling through some difficult times together.
-Zev, honourary member, The hurling class
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JUSTICE #17 - DFing by PHONE
by Amazing injustice #17 dfing by phone .
the telephone can be so useful, yet in some ways so cold and impersonal.
i wonder how the sister in the following account must have felt when she was df'd by phone: .
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i too have see the almost .... "ernest lust" with which elders seem to LEAP at the chance to get on a jc and get to the "root" of the problem to keep the borg clean.
in some caese meetings in my hall go by with no elder present, except that their in the library or their office the entire meeting.
its almost to me what seems to be a passion to them. me? i could never see it and never wanted to. if the position had been held out to me, especially now, i'd flat refuse it.
thanks "amazing" for sharing your personal storys. and please do post your "story" sometime for the newbies. we all look foward to them
-Zev, honourary member, The hurling class
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The greatest consistancy of the WTBTS is their INconsistancy.