Posts by zev

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District Convention Progam EXJW style

by LovesDubs in

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what we would like to see on the program hehehehe .

1. musical interlude (led zepplin, kiss, and selections from britney spears for the youf and barry manilows greatest hits).

2. kingdoom melodies selection (stand up adjust your shorts for the long haul, brothers...we hope you remembered the preparation h).

zev

What a wonderfull sence of humour.

Bringing smiles to zev.

thanks

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Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.

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i'm sure everyone is familiar with the info on mexico and malawi brought out by ray franz in crisis of conscience regarding military service plus the equally shocking info about mexico and the cultural crap.. what i was hoping (to help me open my witness mum's eyes) was some real life experiences from mexican jw's at the time who can confirm the bribing went on with the full knowledge of the society or that they were going to the meetings with no prayers and bibles used etc.. what were they told?

how did they feel about the malawi jw's being raped and murdered for not buying a card?.

any info on either of the issues that elaborates on crisis of conscience would be appreciated.my mum is shocked about both of the them and i think she just can't let herself believe it!.

zev

much like your clothing, fred

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Want to help my JW friend

by wannahelp in

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i'm new here, and i want to make it clear upfront that i am not, nor have i ever been a jw.

in fact, until recently i didn't know much about jw's.

but i do have a question that i hope both jw's and ex-jw's will try and answer for me... about 10 months ago, i hired a 20 year old to work for me.. i hired him because he seemed very loyal, ethical, sincere, hardworking and honest.

zev

wannahelp...
If your a star trek fan you'll appreciate these two words....if not, you'll get the drift...

Borg Programing.

Its very tough to undo. I know. I'm being deprogramed at this moment. My crossroads mave met up with me head on. I cannot give a right/wrong answer to you. But you are a kind and loving friend. and your handle really says it all. wannahelp. Thats what being a friend means.

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excommunication

by zev in

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the secrect book of the elders says this:.

act as qualified judges.. remove unrepentant wrongdoers.

( i cor.

zev

The secrect book of the elders says this:

Act as qualified judges.
Remove unrepentant wrongdoers. ( I Cor. 5:7, 13 )

The scriptures quoted say this:

7 Clear away the old leaven, that YOU may be a new lump, according as YOU are free from ferment. For, indeed, Christ our passover has been sacrificed. 13 while God judges those outside? "Remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves."

Taking aside the emotional aspect of this shunning action, is this right? Or are they miss applying this scripture?
Your thoughts are most welcome.

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DECEPTIVE JW ELDERS - CASE#3

by Amazing in

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deceptive jw elders case#3 .

for there is nothing hid, save that it should be manifested; neither was (anything) made secret, but that it should come to light.

mark 4:22 .

zev

bring it on. tell us more, mr. amazing.
this is great stuff!

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troubled [in need of answers]

by zev in

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today, i had a long, long talk with my employer.

this person is some one who can seperate work and personal things, so after feeling like i needed to talk to someone, and soon, before i crack up, i went to her and dropped the bomb.

she is not a witness, and because i cannot talk to a witness about what i have learned, for fear of the df'ing thingy, i feel safe in talking to her.

zev

latte said:

Where are you? Are there no ex's near you?

Thank you all for what you have said. i cant get into much at this moment, i will when i return home from work tonight. but that is a thought. are there any of you near me that i could converse with? i'm in new england, s.e. massachusetts to be specific, and travel for a cup of joe is not a problem for me at all. i'll wait and see. and i am going to seek help, in group or proffessional form, one way or the other. and abaddon, your words hit very close to home. i'll get back to you on this later tonight.

thank you so much.

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DECEPTIVE JW ELDERS - CASE#2

by Amazing in

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deceptive jw elders case#2 .

appointing spiritually qualified men to take the lead and serve as elders and overseers has been a feature of watch tower congregational organization since about 1972. jws were told in talks at conventions, in literature, and finally in the two versions of the organization book that the biblical criteria is used when elders meet to consider some men for appointment as an elder.

jws are also told that these qualified men are already appointed first by holy spirit, and then as the congregation is lead by that spirit to recognize them, the elders meeting is a confirmation of what god has done.

zev

amazing,
i just read every word, hung to it like it was a good book. bring us more. this is very good stuff.

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Yeah Yeah I'm back

by joelbear in

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i couldn't stay away.

i love you guys.. abaddon's and ldh's recent posts hit close enough to home that i decided to post again.. i think the selected memory and split personalities go hand in hand.. the selected memory helps keep the cult personality happy and gleaming no matter what damage the suppression does to the real human or the real human's family and friends.. a couple of years ago i was talking about my childhood with my parents and they both acted stunned when i said i was still angry with them because they didn't want me to go to college (i gave up several scholarship offers, etc.

to become a pioneer and eventually go to bethel).

zev

19 to one.

one is a lonely number .

just ask fred.

welcome back joel.

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troubled [in need of answers]

by zev in

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today, i had a long, long talk with my employer.

this person is some one who can seperate work and personal things, so after feeling like i needed to talk to someone, and soon, before i crack up, i went to her and dropped the bomb.

she is not a witness, and because i cannot talk to a witness about what i have learned, for fear of the df'ing thingy, i feel safe in talking to her.

zev

doubtingsister said:

Get a counselour and let me know how it goes, maybe I'll get the guts to do it too.

I will. And I will post how it works out, one way or the other.
Thanks.

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zev
Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.

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troubled [in need of answers]

by zev in

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today, i had a long, long talk with my employer.

this person is some one who can seperate work and personal things, so after feeling like i needed to talk to someone, and soon, before i crack up, i went to her and dropped the bomb.

she is not a witness, and because i cannot talk to a witness about what i have learned, for fear of the df'ing thingy, i feel safe in talking to her.

zev

thanks larc,

you know, i tryed with one thing already. blood fractions. and by the time we got home, she was totally turned off by it and didnt want to read anything i researched on it. but thanks for the input, and i'll try with something else maybe.

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zev
Now feeling the pain of sitting on the pickets class.