i've been freed from the Tower for over a decade, but sometimes I still have an occasional JW dream about being judged about whatever I am doing now. Amazing how after I've rejected them in my conscious mind, they still remain authority figures in my unconscious. :( Leolaia
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More KH dreams.
by starfish422 ini keep dreaming about being at the kh.
last night i dreamt i was there and two "worldly" people came in to do some shady business transaction with each other.
they were looking for a third person whom they were supposed to meet there, and wouldn't leave until this person showed up.
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Micheal Jackson Neverland Ranch Search Warrant
by Tinkerbell4125 inanyone saw the news on micheal jackson?
looks like he's is in trouble again!
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Jermaine Jackson just on CNN....watched kyra squirm as she was caught off guard, good tv moment...
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Jesus, Mary and Da'Vinci
by Sentinel indid anyone catch this one hour discussion the other night on prime time tv?
(channel 7, here.).
i only got to see the last half hour, and i sure hope they show it again soon.
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Hey, i'm just like you...not reading fiction but reading lots of non-fiction. The thing that JWs and fundamentalist X'ians dont get is that the OT was the national literature of ancient Israel, so of course it contained fiction! Fiction writing was not a modern invention, nor does fiction equate the same thing as lies, untruth, and so forth. It's like someone 2,000 years from now insisting that Huckleberry Finn is a historically true story. Sure, archaeology can prolly find that the places mentioned in Huck Finn really existed and that the customs and practices fit right in with the 1800s, but it is still fiction. And that doesn't mean that fiction can't be used to teach moral lessons or religious truths. Yet because moral and religious ideas appear in a book such as Jonah, modern fundamentalists insist that it has to be historical and totally infallible. The justification is the scripture in 2 Timothy 3:16 of "all scripture" being inspired of God, interpreted as being literally written by God. Well, Paul (or whoever else wrote 2 Timothy) used the Septuagint (LXX) as his "Bible", and what did it include? All the apocryphal writings like Judith, Tobit, etc. that the Society and fundies reject as "fictional"....if Paul regarded fiction as scripture and suitable for "reproving," why demand "scripture" to be totally free from fiction? I dont get it....
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Micheal Jackson Neverland Ranch Search Warrant
by Tinkerbell4125 inanyone saw the news on micheal jackson?
looks like he's is in trouble again!
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About Farkel's comment, I don't think he gets what MJ meant to some dubs who grew up in the trooth. I remember not long after my mom converted, in 1978 or 1979, a sister who was babysitting me showed me the entertainment section of the newspaper with an ad for The Wiz, and pointed out Michael Jackson and told me, "He is a Jehovah's Witness." Wow, that sure made a big impression! After feeling so alone, being the only one who doesn't salute the flag, celebrate Christmas, etc., here was someone famous that was one of us. And when he became so famous in the early '80s, i think quite a few of us dubs were Jackson fans and took pride in having him among our own. The first album i ever bought was The Jacksons' Victory, and not long after that a brother bought me Thriller. I find it sad that younger ppl today have no conception of how COOL MJ was in the early 80s. Unfortunately, I missed the famous Motown performance in '83 because of the Thursday night service meeting, but the next day at school EVERYBODY was talking about the moonwalk. In '84 MJ was eveyrwhere on the radio. He had that "Say Say Say" song with Paul McCartney, "Somebody's Watching Me" with Rockwell, his own "Billie Jean" and "Thriller," in the summer the Jacksons' "Torture" and some other hit they did with Mick Jagger, and finally "Farewell to My Summer Love" which was played on the radio all summer....and that was the year I really got into music. As a witness, all this was dynomite. So discussing the current Jacko situation is, to me, far from being mere celebrity fluff.
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Micheal Jackson Neverland Ranch Search Warrant
by Tinkerbell4125 inanyone saw the news on micheal jackson?
looks like he's is in trouble again!
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Gerard....it is very easy to override the document security. Just click File < Document Security, select Change Settings, and enable copy and pasting. Then you should be able to copy and paste the selected text.
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Micheal Jackson Neverland Ranch Search Warrant
by Tinkerbell4125 inanyone saw the news on micheal jackson?
looks like he's is in trouble again!
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You saw that Living with Michael Jackson show. Sleeping with his kiddie friends in the same bed would presumably not include a lawyer or adult chaperone in the same room.... About being an idiot, he surely comes across as lacking basic sense and adult understanding in some of the interviews I've seen. I don't know if that is real or a facade of innocence. It is quite hard to imagine his person with seemingly childlike logic was the shrewd pop superstar from the early '80s who pulled the most amazing feat of acquiring the whole Beatle catalogue.... Leolaia
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Armageddon? Nope! No King of the North!
by metatron inthe russian army is a complete mess and they admit as much.. .
no king of the north?
no fufillment of prophecy, no armageddon.. how can they continue to preach "the end is near" ?
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Hmmm, isn't the Anglo-American Empire mostly of a higher latitude than the more equatorial Islamic nations? Why not make the U.S. and Britain the king of the north? Hell, they're closer now in their foreign policy than in many decades....Leolaia
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Micheal Jackson Neverland Ranch Search Warrant
by Tinkerbell4125 inanyone saw the news on micheal jackson?
looks like he's is in trouble again!
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why couldn't he just stick to his E.T. and monkey fetish?
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What's your Phobia?
by ApagaLaLuz ini tend to be a pretty wild soul.
i have eaten the grossest foods.
i don?t get sea sick.
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Freeminds Arcticle: "Do Jehovah's Witnesses Believe the Bible?"
by hooberus inthe following is an interesting new arcticle on the freeminds site:.
http://www.geocities.com/thewatchtowerstudy/bible.htm.
it gives interesting information on jw bible interpretation gymnastics regarding verses on jesus, showing that the wt in effect rejects the plain teachings of the bible regarding jesus.
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Leolaia
Yeah i always had trouble with that issue too....i mean, what was the point of Jesus showing Thomas the nail prints on his hands....if it really wasn't prints made by the nails??? It made Jesus seem a little dodgy....
I totally bought into the doctrine against immortality of the soul, but for the life of me i never accepted the idea that the resurrected as recreated from God's "memory". No, no way.....it was like invasion of the body snatchers, a recreated person would not REALLY be me, what kind of a "hope" is that? Someone else would be living my life. So, instead i rationalized it in my mind as thinking that when a person dies, and their spirit goes back to God (as it says in Ps.), it is an unconscious spirit, with no personality or awareness (cause it needs a body for that), but it is an individual spirit that will then be sent back into a recreated body and that would establish the continuity needed. I'm sure that would've been heretical if the elders ever found out i believed that, but ever since i was 8 years old, I understood that resurrection is not recreation.
As for Jesus, I thought of his spirit as different from that of human people.....and so when he died, his spirit was released and he indeed was conscious (for how else could be preach to the spirits in Tartarus?)....and then God made him a new body to be resurrected in. Little did I know that the witness doctrine led me to an almost docetist belief...
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