the watchtower does not usually place women in positions of authority.. so, does anyone know if there have been any female medical doctors (any type, md, do or chiro) that worked at bethel recently?.
the only one that i know of was dr mae j work, but she was at bethel over 70 years ago!.
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In Sweden it would be impossible to keep your license as a MD and a JW since a licensed MD must follow obligatory treatment, ordinations such as blood transfusions, abortions, and other. Un MD who cannot threat his/her patients as ordered from the social authorities will be removed from the list. Even unorthodox treatments like herbs or other are often disqualifying you as un MD. I know, my daughter, is an MD.
Bugbear
one of the most important sources that we have for the most ancient stages of the religion of israel are some epic texts about the gods of canaan that were found in an archaeological excavation in a place called ras shamra (ancient ugarit) early in the twentieth century.
these epics reveal a very rich ancient canaanite mythology, especially in the elaborated stories of the gods el and baal and their rivals and consorts.
while, of course, the israelite branch of the canaanite group partly defined itself through the rejection of this mythology, much of the imagery and narrative allusions that we find in the works of the israelite prophets, the psalms, and other biblical poetic texts are best illuminated through comparison with these ancient texts.
Doug
Thank you we need more of the stuff you have brought up, to bash the JW org.
Bugbear
in the creation vs evolution argument:.
the often used illustration of a watch found in the desert.
someone had to make it.. with creation also someone had to make it.
Cofty
Good argument. I have very often found that Religious minds/persons need the comfort of a super “DAD” who is going to take care of everything that fails. I think our brain has its own methods to stand the conditions that “life” brought us, with death, diseases, pestilence, war, tsunamis etc.etc.
Bugbear
i'm atheist and not ashamed of it.
however, it is so politically incorrect, especially where i live.
i have a legitimate concern that being out of the closet too much will hurt my career or neighborly relations--i know for a fact it probably would.. i'm really cautious about who i tell.. how about you?
Here in Scandinavia, it almost ”a sin” to declare that you are religious. If you bring up the subject on a job interview, You are regarded as “nuts”. Almost half of the population in Sweden openly declare that they are atheists. No politician would dare saying that they have “a believe” . All religious believes are considerate superstitions.
Bugbear
hello to all.
i've been on this site for a couple of weeks now posting here and there but have not had the opportunity to read about many of the regular members and what led up to their leaving the wt.. i understand that some of you (i'm part of this club) may not be able to disclose many details and i can appreciate that.. i'd love to hear what was it that finally made you renounce what is and hopefully soon to be "was" the wt.. i truly look forward to having good discussions.. thank you to all for your kind participation.. .
Facts made me wake up.....
Bugbear
what if there were no such things as arabic numerals (0123456789)?.
what if you only had your alphabet?.
you could use letters as numerical values.
Thnks Terry! I mixed the two groups, "long time since examina" of course it was the pythagoreans that lived in suthern Italy. But I do like the ideology of the Epicureas better.
Bugbear
what if there were no such things as arabic numerals (0123456789)?.
what if you only had your alphabet?.
you could use letters as numerical values.
Thanks Terry for inviting us to accurate knowledge on the Antique ideas that was very dominating at the time when most of the bible was written. I wish I had half of the knowledge that you obviously have. I think that you will find more interesting information about reading on the Epicureans, decedents from the ancient Epicurus, who believed they “had the knowledge”, through numerology. They called it “the secret”, and indeed they were very “secret” about their knowledge. It is very interesting to see hove the bible reflects many of these ancient ideas and that people who doesn´t understand this influence, still are trying to find the “truth” by bible interpreting.
Thanks and LOL
Bugbear
looking at all the doctrinal teachings over the last five years, it's almost impossible for any person of conscience who originated such doctrine to do a complete u-turn and change it when the passage of time has proved beyond doubt that doctrine is no longer credible.. i say this with reference to the generation of 1914. they were so sure.
it was part of the awake!
masthead for decades that those who saw the events of 1914 would also see the great tribulation.. .
Anyone who claims to have the truth from the Bible or any other religious scripture is either mad or a fraud.
Bugbear
hi everyone.. i think this is a big question.
but how would you answer it in the simpliest of terms?.
in simple terms my " goals " are :-.
I think that reading some of the scriptures from Epikure (ancient greek philosofer) could give you an answer of what many of us like to do with our lifes in our new freedom.
Bugbear
i am here for the first time ...but have enjoyed reading others experiences that i feel i can relate too.
i used to be an elder for more than 20 years .
i have successfully faded with my wife and children.
Welcome Wide Awake 7.
I´m looking forward to hear your story, which is very similar to mine, except the fact that my wife is still in. Therefore I am still invited to "special occations" like funerals, weddings and others since my wife wants me to go. I am refusing, this not to embarrassing my wife, the funeral party, or the wedding couple. I sometimes have the tendency to answer "the friends" questions in an "arrogant way", this becouse I basicly think they are studpid. And that is not to good on a funeral/wedding party.
Bugbear
